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post #1 of 18 Old 05-06-2012, 01:56 AM Thread Starter
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Confused about a job

So, I've been looking for a new job because I just can't make it on what I don't make at Goodwill (I make $7.75/hr and haven't gotten a raise since I started a year and a half ago). I put in ten applications/resumes on Wednesday to various places in the area that were hiring. One was a law firm up the road from my work that is looking for a full-time secretary. Another was for a sales rep position at a local Toyota dealership. I got called for interviews for both of them yesterday (Friday).

The law office set up an interview for me for 5pm yesterday (Friday). They called me while I was at work to set up the interview, but luckily I had thought to bring interview clothes with me (long story involving another interview I was supposed to have, but didn't). I went to the interview and really liked the office and the girl who interviewed me. The feeling seemed mutual and she told me that she'll be submitting the resumes of the people she'd interviewed to the partners for review and they'd start calling people for second interviews on Tuesday. The secretary position is $10/hr to start, Monday through Friday 8am to 5pm with an hour lunch. All the duties of the secretary position were things I've done before or wouldn't mind doing.

So, the car dealership set up an interview for today (Saturday) between 4pm and 5pm. The guy was really nice and willing to work around my schedule since I had to work today. I was supposed to work 8:30am to 4pm today, but ended up doing a split shift and got off from the first half of my shift at noon (had to go back in at 6pm). Anyway, I got to the interview a few minutes before 4pm and the guy had me fill out an application (I had just submitted my resume online). Then he had me go sit in the waiting area for a while (they were busy and he was understaffed, so he was having to do several things at once, in addition to interviewing me). So, he finally comes over and sits down to chat. He did most of the talking (wouldn't let me get a word in edge-wise, really) and then abruptly had to go check on something, so left me sitting for another twenty minutes or so. When he came back, he started talking about training and pay. The position is a guaranteed $6000 per month for the first three months, however, he didn't say anything about what it would be after that. He also didn't mention how I would be paid (bi-weekly, monthly, per sale, hourly plus commission, etc). He wants me to print out my driving record from the MVD ($3 from their website) and bring it to him tomorrow so that they can make sure I'm insurable through Toyota (I have a couple of tickets on my record, but I doubt they'll be an issue). If I am insurable, I have a job waiting for me on Tuesday morning, provided I pass the drug test (which I will).

I called my dad as soon as I got out of the interview to tell him what had happened. My dad has done A LOT in his lifetime and I trust his judgement. He was a little distracted since they had people over, but he was positive about the job offer. He asked me to call him back after I got off work to discuss it further. So, I called him when I got off at 9:40pm and we talked for a good 15 minutes about the job offer. He wants me to find out how I'll be paid (hourly plus, straight commission, bi-weekly, monthly, per sale, etc), what the average pay is after the first ninety days and what the benefits are like. All reasonable questions, really. He's concerned that I won't be making as much every month after the first three months as I would the first three months. However, anything is better than the basically $800 a month I make right now. My dad knows several people who work for the Toyota dealership (or with one of the other companies connected with them). He knows the owner's personal secretary and one of the guys in our church works in their Subaru division and runs their internet sales. We bought my (Toyota) truck from this company (almost 13 years ago).

So, what do you guys think? Does the sales rep position sound too good to be true? Or does anyone know someone who sells new cars, and if so, what is their pay like?

I'm kind of looking at it thinking "A lot of people love Toyotas, so there's almost always going to be a market for them." Am I wrong in thinking that?

I know A LOT about cars (the guy interviewing me could tell that right away); I've worked in a sales position before (worked at a rental car company for almost five years); I have TONS of experience with customer service (the guy interviewing me even commented on it lol); I'm not afraid to approach people and strike up a conversation; and I love Toyotas, so I'm loyal to the brand and wouldn't have a problem selling them to people because they're a brand I believe in.

I guess I'm just looking for opinions. My friends are all encouraging about it.

Oh, and an interesting aside: I found out that my parents owned a Ford dealership for a few years. Never knew that!
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post #2 of 18 Old 05-07-2012, 10:19 AM
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What can go wrong? If after 3 months the pay "doesn't work out", then find another job. It's not like you're leaving a job with a close salary. There are 7.75 jobs everywhere.

This, too, shall pass........
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I would want more exact details on the pay structure both for the first 90 days and then thereafter. Also about the benefits. $6k per month does sound too good to be true but as Bearkiller says, if it doesn't work out, you can stick it out until you find another job.

And I only say that because based on your background, it does sound like you have a good foundation of skill sets for this position. If you didn't, I think I'd be more cautious about trying it out.

Good luck to you! I hope it works out!

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post #4 of 18 Old 05-07-2012, 10:55 AM
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Sounds like a better deal than what youhave now. Save some money incase some months are mush lower!
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post #5 of 18 Old 05-07-2012, 03:24 PM
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Sales jobs have the potential to make the most amount of money. The sky is the limit.
However they are also subject to the whims of the consomers and the economy.
The auto industry is booming right now. might be the perfect time to get your foot in the door.
Be sure and save a good portion of your money though or invest it to have some in lean times. Shalom
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post #6 of 18 Old 05-07-2012, 05:50 PM
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Recommend writing down your questions then give the guy a call or ask for another meeting and get your questions answered. I'd also put out your feelers and get some insight about working with and for these people.
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post #7 of 18 Old 05-07-2012, 07:09 PM
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With the job market as it is... Moving to another job that saying we have a lot of green grass but not saying how much and what grass it is is risky.

As you have a job now I would only move to a job that you know you can settle in for a long term. I use to work with horses and truck driving etc. Now I work in Walmart not great pay for sure but it's a job I have.

If I come across a job that wont tell me much I will not be interested in going. Get more info and before you sign anything read it....
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post #8 of 18 Old 05-07-2012, 08:44 PM Thread Starter
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Okay, so kind of forgot I had posted this. lol

I went to drop off my MVR (motor vehicle record) at the car dealership on Sunday and I asked about pay. If it was straight commission, I was fully prepared to run the other way, probably screaming. However, it's salary plus commission! I will be receiving a $1000 check on the fifth and the 20th of every month, then the commission check for whatever sales I made that month with the first check of the next month (same way it worked when I worked for Budget car rental). I can do that!

The sales manager said that he doesn't usually tell people that it's salary plus commission when he's interviewing or hiring (unless they ask) because people tend to get lazy and not sell as much if they know they have a regular paycheck to fall back on. I told him that he won't have to worry about that with me because I have stuff I need to do with the money I'm making (pay off bills, buy a newer truck, buy a horse trailer, that sort of thing), so I'm going to sell like I'm working straight commission.

He called me today to let me know he submitted my MVR to the insurance department, but they said it'll take a couple of days to process. So, here's hoping! I talked to my dad about it today and as soon as he found out that it was salary plus commission, he said "Go for it!"
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nice well i hope the switch goes well for you and make a good career from it.
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post #10 of 18 Old 05-07-2012, 09:46 PM
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Awesome job!

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him and not only will he not scold you, but he will make a fool of himself too."

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