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    09-22-2013, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Endiku    
I haven't had the allergy pricks done, no. Should I try that?
That might be something to consider, if it's at all possible.

My mom is deathly allergic to, what feels like, 'everything' under the sun [all meat except for turkey, all dairy products, nuts, most fish, most kinds of beans, eggs, many types of vegetable, etc, not to mention a MYRIAD of environmental allergies - I'm pretty sure she's a Celiac too but she refuses to try the diet...not that I really blame her since being a Celiac AND having those other limitations would make eating next to impossible].
Back when she was eating those things [before I was born] she had alllll kinds of physical manifestations - anorexically skinny while eating a TON, severe severe eczema+other skin stuff, violent mood swings centered around meal times, she was constantly sleepy, and [in her case, obviously this wouldn't have come up for you! Haha] she had had 5 unexplained miscarriages in a row - just to name a few.

Her doctors couldn't figure it out and the only way anything got discovered was she got the allergy picks, reacted to pretty much everything they pricked her with, doctors freaked out , and she went on a serious elimination diet where she only ate potatoes for a month [a predetermined "safe" food], started getting better, then began adding in foods that she hadn't reacted to in the tests - one at a time, one a week.
About 6 months later she got pregnant with me and things went nuts again [just because her doctors had her eat things she was allergic to, to make sure I got proper nutrition]...but I came out mostly fine! Haha

Anyway, she still has mild "issues" but they're survivable issues and she feels pretty good on a daily basis.
And, at least in her case, she has so many sensitivities that her whole 'thing' is actually considered to be an auto-immune disease in and of itself.

Just a thought.
Have you ever kept a food journal?
Is there a time of year when you feel better? Do you feel better statistically inside or outside? Or the same everywhere? Better or worse at home vs somewhere religiously cleaned, like that hospital you went to?
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    09-22-2013, 06:48 PM
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Wow, that's insane Wallaby! My mom had that done due to severe asthma, and she was allergic to just about everything (except foods thankfully) as well. Animals, pollens, pretty much all trees, dust... the doctors flipped out when they saw how swollen her back was!

I'll definitely mention it to my parents and see if they're willing to give it a shot (HAHAHA, literally...) Thanks for the suggestion!
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    09-22-2013, 07:14 PM
Originally Posted by Endiku    
Wow, that's insane Wallaby! My mom had that done due to severe asthma, and she was allergic to just about everything (except foods thankfully) as well. Animals, pollens, pretty much all trees, dust... the doctors flipped out when they saw how swollen her back was!

I'll definitely mention it to my parents and see if they're willing to give it a shot (HAHAHA, literally...) Thanks for the suggestion!
Uhoh, you do know that allergies are often genetic? I have all the same allergies as my dad plus a couple more. Might be getting close to finding out what your problem is.
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    09-22-2013, 07:25 PM
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Are they? O.o I didn't know that. Even more reason to start investigating this just might be on to something guys!
    09-22-2013, 07:27 PM
You know, if your parents aren't able/willing to pay for more tests, how would it go for you if you made your own elimination diet? Start with just one thing and water, and only spice is salt (given the earlier discussion). Rice is a good staple, or potatoes as suggested. I wonder if there is information about a very simple, basic diet on the internet somewhere.

My concern would be if this would make things worse since no one knows what's causing all this... or will it provide some answers? Tough decision unless you have some educated support to help you decide whether/how to do something like this.
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    09-22-2013, 07:33 PM
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Good points NorthernMama, I'd be willing to try an elimination diet if it didn't do any harm to me, but how do I know?
    09-23-2013, 04:28 PM
Ya, that's the tough part. For someone that has no issues to try it, no big deal, but for you... I dunno... Can you run it by your doctor next time you have an appointment? Or will the idea get shut down before you even have a chance to talk about it? Maybe there is a nutritionist on the local health and/or food council. We have one in a nearby town.

I tried to find something on the internet, but didn't have much luck. Other than finding out that rice is the basis of many diets (gee, surprise)... There are minimalist diets out there. Beans, rice, fish, seaweed... I forget what else. I think there was a page about 7 foods to survive on, or something like that.
    09-23-2013, 07:46 PM
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My GI doctor would probably shut it down the second I mentioned it, but I can totally research a nutritionist and see about contacting them. I'm sure someone would be willing to talk to me, right? :)

Beans, rice, fish, and seaweed sounds like the diet of my ancestors xD I'm partially Vietnamese, and that's what a large portion of my family from Vietnam eats. Maybe I should just become a die-hard traditionalist!

I'm not going to lie though, last time they prepared me some food for a 'traditional nam birthday party dinner' I nearly died. So.Much.Raw.Meat ._.
    09-24-2013, 11:23 AM
Okay...I know I said I would quit trying to push this information out here.....but.....I lied.

The reason I thought I would be flamed is general I have received lots of resistance when I begin to mention that people need to look to their eating habits and let go of their medicating doctors to improve their health. I wasn't trying to imply of anyone in particular....just in general, someone usually pops out of the woodwork and begins slandering what I've said. And in every instance it's someone that's never even experienced what I've recommended.

Endiku - The reason you crave so much salt is because your adrenal glands are weak. And so are your kidneys. Craving salt is a very large hint that your adrenal glands are weak. And the reason you crave so much water is because your body is trying to dilute the salt so that you don't poison yourself. I think you also said that you get major headaches if you omit salt??..?? It's because your body has gone to great lengths to encase that excess salt in your system so that, again, you don't poison yourself....and when you remove the salt from your diet, all the excess which has been trapped and encased in your body begins to be released. And it causes pain as you're body is quickly trying to get rid of it, but it has a hard time getting rid of all that excess because the pathways for eliminating them are.....for lack of a better word....clogged. So now that excess material begins to re-circulate through your system, causing you pain as your body once again works to protect itself.

If you want to get better you need to only put things into your body that which it has been designed for. In one short answer to what that would be, from my current understanding and experience.....fruit. Lots of fruit with some bitter greens, herbs and very small amounts of nuts, seeds, and fats. But to really get your body back online and functioning again stick with the juicy fruit at first. Fruit will begin to break down your clogged up lymph system and get it functioning again. It will get your kidneys to begin working again. It has good fiber for your GI tract. And speaking of that..... Though I didn't want to recommend fasting from where you currently are because it would likely be an unpleasent experience. If you stick to the fruit for a short while....then you can consider going on a fast. And expect there to be ups and'll feel very good some times, but other times as your body begins to release all those trapped up poisons in your will feel terrible. The best thing to do is rest in such instances until your body passes em.

Here's one more person who IMO, you should study. Arnold Ehret.
These three would be my current suggestion.
Dr. Robert Morse
Arnold Ehret
Loren Lockman

And I'm sure that from your position it's hard to just take a strangers I suggest you study, study, study. And it's probably especially tough when you hear so many different opinions. But I'm speaking to you from personal experience and my current understanding through researching others who are on the same path. I studied health for over six years.....diligently. I spent roughly 30 hours a week studying health and healing the body....for over six years. After all those years of studying and experiencing what I had studied, I came to one simple answer, and let go of everything what the body is designed to eat....and allow it to rest, via fasting periodically to remove the excess. Basically, nourish it properly, and quite trying to stuff this or that into it trying to remedy anything, and allow it to do what it already knows what to do.....heal.
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    09-24-2013, 05:23 PM
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Totalfreedom- I appreciate all of your detailed replied to this thread. Thank you for taking the time to consider my 'case' and recommend to me what you know!

I love the idea of getting back to what humans were originally created to eat, but what about in cases such as mine, where fruits are actually one of the things I avoid the most because of how sick I feel when I eat them? I can sometimes handle a greenish banana because they're still very basic, and if I'm careful I can eat a few pieces of apple or grapes, but all other fruits make me feel absolutely awful. Oranges, pineapples, mangoes, and strawberries are the worst- but they all cause my bile to intensify and reflux to get really bad. I have no clue why. I also can't eat nuts at all because I'm just plain allergic to them. I throw up, cough, and shake when I eat them. I do eat a lot of unprocessed seeds (pumpkin and sunflower are my favorite), and I can handle small bits of certain herbs and fat, but if I eat too much of either one, my body fight back because my gallbladder was (stupidly) removed last year. What would you suggest? Just power through eating that kind of thing anyways (except the nuts... It is definitely NOT a good idea for me to eat those if they don't even stay down) with the assumption that my body will realize its normal to eat those things? Or avoid those too, and go a different route? What about meats, eggs, and vegetables? I eat a lot of eggs (mostly the whites since my cholesterol is naturally high) and vegetables since they don't seem to bother my stomach a lot.

Also, would that kind of diet require me to quit all of my medications? I'm not saying I wouldn't try it, because I actually might, I'm just trying to figure out how big of a thing we're talking about.

Your explanation about the salt and water is very interesting though. Sounds like I'm actually hurting myself more by giving myself what I 'feel' like I need...hmmm. So should I be only allowing myself to take in so much water and salt per day, even if I feel bad if I don't drink more? It would eventually stop hurting, right?

I'm very interested if you can't tell. I'm just not sure how much of this I can do being that I am still a minor and under my parents authority.

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