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        09-25-2013, 10:59 AM
      #151
    Weanling
    The likely reason that the fruits are causing you pains is because it's the cleanest thing you can eat. Especially when it's ripe and grown properly. When we go from eating processed foods our whole lives to eating the cleanest things for our bodies.....we don't feel well because we are no longer putting the processed stuff in. And the body finally jumps on the opportunity to begin cleaning house. But the issue arises when the body doesn't have enough clear pathways to eliminate the stored excess, so all the released accumulations begin to circulate through the blood. Then the body goes back into overdrive to protect itself. This is where those pains come from when we are cleansing. If you want more insight or understanding on this process then you could study rehab clinics and why people go through withdrawals.

    I would recommend a transition diet if it's currently difficult for you to eat much fruit. Ehret and Morse talk about this a bit. Perhaps eating fruit during the morning and as far into the day as possible, then in the evening eat steamed veggies. And I will admit.....it can be a little unpleasent for a short while. For me I had a few days of not feeling so well then days of feeling great, and this continued for a few weeks. But the days of feeling great kept growing and the days of feeling unpleasent quickly became less and went away. The harder you cleanse your body by eating cleaner and cleaner the quicker and more extreme your body will.."detox". So you can always slow that process back down with some cooked food.....sometimes it's things such as steamed veggies or simple salads that will work. But there are also some that when they reach a place of pain that they just can't stand, they will eat a little bit of processed food to practically halt the body from cleansing itself and it will make the pains stop. A few weeks ago someone on the fb page tore into a bag of chips because her headaches were too much for her. In my case I've even used burritos. LOL

    I would also recommend staying away from the nuts, "not that you need anyone to tell you that your body doesn't agree with them". The body is already overburdened from an excess of protein consumption in our society and it's the last thing it needs right now in the majority of situations.

    As far as eating fruit....do you know of any that do currently agree with you? Watermelon would be great, so would dark grapes. Morse talks about those two a LOT, and it's because they cleanse very well. And for the most part it's currently pretty easy to find some at that are ripe....well I guess if you live in the northern hemisphere anyway. The watermelon is great on the kidneys and the dark grapes are very good for the lymphatic system. And when eating fruit, make it a point to try and select what is currently ripe and in season.

    As far as the salt....yes you are correct. Though I wouldn't intentionally limit your daily water. Drink what you desire.

    If you want more specific help from people with WAY more experience than I have, then contact Dr. Morse's office. The last I heard he was very busy helping people with intense sicknesses so you may not talk directly with him. And to be honest I don't know if it will cost money or not. Though you can always email him of your situation and I'll bet, that he will do a video response to you. You can also get on fb and look for Dr. Morse fan club....there are many people on there who are very knowledgeable that have gone through some very tough times who are great when you need some insight and support. And I will admit....my knowledge is limited to my situation and the things I've remembered which I felt were important.
         
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        09-25-2013, 11:04 AM
      #152
    Green Broke
    The only thing I'm going to disagree with you on in that last post is the amount of protein in nuts. Sadly, even though there is protein in nuts, it's not a significant amount and it's not the purest and most healthy way to get it.

    That's all though. You bring up some very interesting information.
         
        09-25-2013, 11:13 AM
      #153
    Yearling
    ^^ I would recommenced not eating store bought fruits if at all possible. The reason why is my brother gets headaches from eating store-bought apples, but not from apples fresh from the tree. Our rabbits refuse to eat store-bought apples, but they will eat apples from the tree so greedily they have slobber running from their mouth. Mom thinks the apples from the store (and possibly other fruits) are sprayed with stuff to make them ripe and are waxed to make them keep longer. Ever put a fresh apple along side a store bought apple? Which one do you suppose spoiled the fastest?

    And also I would try to get some (cooked...:))meat into you, our bodies were made for it. Possibly you might want to eat more fish, because of your background, but I defiently would not omit meat, no matter what the fads are.
         
        09-25-2013, 11:21 AM
      #154
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by EmilyJoy    
    ^^ I would recommenced not eating store bought fruits if at all possible. The reason why is my brother gets headaches from eating store-bought apples, but not from apples fresh from the tree. Our rabbits refuse to eat store-bought apples, but they will eat apples from the tree so greedily they have slobber running from their mouth. Mom thinks the apples from the store (and possibly other fruits) are sprayed with stuff to make them ripe and are waxed to make them keep longer. Ever put a fresh apple along side a store bought apple? Which one do you suppose spoiled the fastest?

    And also I would try to get some (cooked...:))meat into you, our bodies were made for it. Possibly you might want to eat more fish, because of your background, but I defiently would not omit meat, no matter what the fads are.
    My dad doesn't get a headache but store bought apples do upset his stomach. What we found out is they coat apples with a protective coating prior to shipping and that coating is what his body doesn't like. Wash that coating off prior to eating and I bet the problem will go away.
         
        09-25-2013, 11:24 AM
      #155
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by EmilyJoy    
    ^^ I would recommenced not eating store bought fruits if at all possible. The reason why is my brother gets headaches from eating store-bought apples, but not from apples fresh from the tree. Our rabbits refuse to eat store-bought apples, but they will eat apples from the tree so greedily they have slobber running from their mouth. Mom thinks the apples from the store (and possibly other fruits) are sprayed with stuff to make them ripe and are waxed to make them keep longer. Ever put a fresh apple along side a store bought apple? Which one do you suppose spoiled the fastest?

    I also specifically avoid store apples for just this very reason. I've heard that many times the apples are picked under ripe and they will store them for months on end in warehouse fridge's. I bought some apples from the store last year....and I saved a couple of them, until about a month ago when I tossed em into my compost heap. They still hadn't gone overly mushy or sour. They definitely wax them and spray them with chemicals. To get even more detailed in this story.....I purchased those apples in early spring....last year....that was roughly 16 months. And who knows when they were actually picked and how long they were stored for.
         
        09-25-2013, 11:31 AM
      #156
    Yearling
    ^^Maybe peeling them would help? I still say buy locally grown apples if at all possible. Also I would highly recommenced inter-library loaning a book by Sally Fallon called, "Nourishing Traditions; The Cookbook that Challenges Politically Correct Nutrition and Diet Dictocrats." Also are you on any kind of probiotics? They help get the gut bacteria going again.
         
        09-25-2013, 11:45 AM
      #157
    Teen Forum Moderator
    Ugh, just lost my whole post.

    You make a very good point and with some more research I think I really would like to try to do that. Being healthy without any more surgeries, guessing games, and symptom-masking sounds wonderful. I think I would have to do it slowly though, since, as you said- the withdrawal period can be terrible. And if the saltless headaches are any indication of the pain...it will be terrible for a while. Maybe if I do it slowly though, I'll be able to do it without having any lying-on-the-floor-I'm-going-to-die days. I honestly just can't afford any days like that between my job, two horses (completely self care boarding), family, college/high school, and other teenaged things xD

    Its something I think my parents would have to really think on and agree to, though, because at least in my area, organic home-grown foods are SO expensive. Everything we eat is walmart, H-E-B, Kroger type quality, and I shudder when I think about what is in most of it...especially the meat. That's actually why I avoid most meat at the moment. I eat deer that one of my friend kills (I buy it off of him) every hunting season, and I'm forced to eat the processed chicken my mom buys, but that's about it. I love meat, but I don't love the junk that the meat is fed and injected with. The eggs I eat are farm-fresh from the place where I board my horses, so they aren't a problem. The chickens are fed a natural diet and are very healthy/forage for themselves mostly. The fruit though...again, all Wal-Mart, HEB stuff. No wonder it makes me feel sick...

    I'm going to look more into this and bring it up as an option to my parents. It will cost a lot more and be a lot more work, but I'm old enough to prepare my own meals separately so maybe they'll agree. If not, its something I'll try when I move out, if nothing else.
         
        09-25-2013, 02:55 PM
      #158
    Yearling
    ^^The fresh eggs are a way+. Deer meat is a great option as well.
         

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