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post #21 of 88 Old 03-22-2010, 07:16 PM
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tehehe my mom should get a leash for me... and im 14, hahaha I have a short attention span XD
My mom never got me a leash, but then again I was always like a puppy, I would be across the store and running around but I would also know where she was and I would always come running back. Haha there was only one time when they shouldave gotten me one... I ran down Long Beach for about an hour looking for them, haha but my dad was following me without me to see where I was going... I was only three then.
Honestly, I have no problem with leashs, I mostly just have problems with freakishly over-protective parents. I think it wouldve been nice to have a leash on me when I was learning to ski.... haha I was the kid whipping down the ski hill at the speed of light on skis, haha, but I learned how to stop real quick, lol.

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Alright. I've tried 3 times to write a response but my computer has a virus and closes everything out before I can finish writing my response and post it. So I give up for now. LOL

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post #23 of 88 Old 03-22-2010, 09:20 PM
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Here I go:

With my oldest I didn't have to use a leash. I didn't like them. I thought they were silly. UNTIL one day he wanted something that was across the parking lot and pulled out of my hand, I grabbed his coat, he pulled out of his coat and ran across the parking lot. Sent two cars screeching to a halt. I thought I was doing a good job with him. He stayed by my side MOST of the time. But kids are unpredictable! I never did get a "leash" for him but thinking back maybe I should have. There were MANY times when he would throw a fit and I tried to hang on to his hand or pick him up or punish him (I've since learned to just stand there and wait it out). I would think to myself "this has GOT to be hurting his hand or arm or shoulder!". I mean when you hold your child's hand you are basically LEASHING them to you. Think about it, your arm to your hand to his hand to his arm, it's a connection JUST LIKE A LEASH! Not to mention how tiring it must be for a small child to have his arm up so high for a long period of time.

Anyway, when I had my third (a boy) I QUICKLY learned what RUNNER meant. The moment that boy took his first steps he was up and away. I would turn my back for maybe three seconds and he'd be out of my sight. Now since I had two very well behaved older children I could just plop Logan in the cart and be off. He couldn't run and I was happy.

Then Luke came. Luke had to have the seat and Logan had to walk. That's when I learned how hard it is to push a cart and keep a two year old by your side. He wants to touch everything, he's not stranger shy, he is still learning boundaries and he LOVES to run and explore. Things which can be dangerous and messy in a lot of places. Remember now that at two he is still LEARNING to stay by me and he is still LEARNING when and what to do. Not to mention he's VERY strong willed.

I think a "leash" is an excellent tool in some situations. When you are on vacation, a crowded place, when you'll have your hands full. Just because we are parents doesn't make us sprout seven arms, nine eyes and the speed of lightning. I don't see the child's "leash" as a dog's leash. I don't think they compare. And if you want to compare then you can compare teaching a dog to heel off leash to teaching your child to stick by your side. Like I said on another forum I'm working on teaching my kids to sit, stay and retrieve dead birds in their mouth. Basically, it's silly to compare the two.

The only time I would compare the two is if someone is using the "leash" inappropriately. Yanking on it like you would when you correct a dog or pulling your child with it across the floor. Then yes, to those parents it does compare.

BTW way back when, mothers used to tie their children to poles, table legs and themselves with apron strings.
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post #24 of 88 Old 03-22-2010, 09:26 PM
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I realize they have a good purpose, but it's really disturbing to see a kid on the end of a leash.

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post #25 of 88 Old 03-22-2010, 09:30 PM
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It's even more disturbing to see them hit by cars or snatched by someone. : /
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post #26 of 88 Old 03-22-2010, 09:34 PM
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That's the thing. I think it's more a safety issue than anything. I think they're great devices(as odd as the idea is).
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post #27 of 88 Old 03-22-2010, 09:35 PM
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It's even more disturbing to see them hit by cars or snatched by someone. : /
I said I realized they had a good purpose.

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post #28 of 88 Old 03-22-2010, 09:37 PM
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I know I was just commenting on it looking disturbing. I wasn't bashing you.
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post #29 of 88 Old 03-22-2010, 09:40 PM
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I will leash my child. When I cared for my 2 year old strong willed little sister she had a leash too. It is safe, stressfree, and supports your young childs independance while they learn boundaries.

Kaylee had hers on until she was 4(then she just had a "bracelet" with a leash attached to it in large crowded areas), by then she had learned to stay with me, not wander off, if she got too far she learned to yell "SISSY" really loud just to be sure we stayed together. I didnt have to fight her and argue with her, it there was no "I don't want to listen", there was no choice but to listen and stay near me.

I think it enforces the bond you have with your child. Sure in a perfect worl all toddlers would listen to their parents, not throw tantrums and change their own pullups, but not in this lifetime. It takes time to teach a child to stay near you and it takes time for them to understand that the world is dangerous. Until then I would rather not have to scream and yell at my kid, force him to hold my hand and have to constantly worry about him wandering or darting off of a sudden.

And the human dignity thing?? Are you serious?? Grow up. They are little kids, you think they give a crap? If you do not make a big deal out of it, they will not care at all. If they ask if they are a puppy dog, say "No, this is so mommy(sissy, babysitter, ect.) can let you walk like a big kid by yourself and know you are safe". I would choose safety over dignity any day of the week.

Not to mention they are freakin' cute!! Especially the "backpacks" that look like bears and monkeys and pandas!With some the leashes are not detachable, so no worries about them being undone quickly.

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post #30 of 88 Old 03-22-2010, 09:45 PM
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The only time I would compare the two is if someone is using the "leash" inappropriately. Yanking on it like you would when you correct a dog or pulling your child with it across the floor. Then yes, to those parents it does compare.

BTW way back when, mothers used to tie their children to poles, table legs and themselves with apron strings.
I have done all the above. The oldest two are off the leash and will fetch birds nicely (I don't MAKE them use thier mouths but it does impress my buddies). I had a rope strung between two trees last summer and I would hook the leash to a snap on the line and he could run a long ways and play outside safely.

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