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        09-26-2012, 12:45 PM
      #11
    Weanling
    I'm the type of person that doesn't believe something until I see it.
    I did not believe in santa or the tooth fairy when I was younger either. I also never believed in ghosts or spirits.
    People would tell me about things they have experienced and I would laugh at them, my Grandmother used to tell me that when you lay in bed sometimes in her house you will hear people walk up the stairs and laughing. She lives in a detached house.
    Another example would be when my mother told me that one time when she walked into my bedroom when I was a baby my rocking horse was rocking frantically whilst I was in my cot sleeping. I didn't believe any of it.

    Then when my step-dad died, it all changed. I feel like I can 'feel' when somethings in the room, we have moved house 5 times since he died and in every house paranormal things have occurred. Things used to move around the room, items would go missing then magically appear in a different place(not the normal every day things where your mum moves your shoes ect), things used to literally fly across the room- we used to have a bathroom mirror that was weighed at the base and it went flying across the bathroom in the middle of the night...

    The one thing I will never ever forget is the time my cousin stayed over for the night. It was just me and her in the house. We we're in the kitchen getting food, whilst we were walking by the bottom of the staircase I caught a black figure standing at the top of the stairs. It was like a silhouette, pure black and masculine, it was not a shadow. If it was a shadow of me or my cousin it would be grey-ish and would stretch up the stair case not be an actual figure at the top of the stairs.
    I continued on into the living room and sat down, my cousin sat down beside me and whe turned round and looked at each other and at the same time said 'did you just see that?'. Now okay, if she didn't see I would have just thought it was my imagination but the fact that we BOTH had seen it really startled me.

    Another freaky moment was when I walked into my brothers room and his tv turned on,when I stepped out it turned off. I ran down the stairs and told my mum, she tried it and nothing happened. So then I walked back into the room myself and it turned back on, I thought maybe the button was stuck on the remote or something so I walked out and went to walk back in but this time I lent in and hovered my foot above the floor and guess what? It turned back on!

    This all happened in the one house, the one that we had lived in as a family when he was alive. Things got too out of hand so we moved out, it continued in the other houses. Have noticed that in the past 4 years it has been on-off, when my mum is in a relationship(she has had two- one now and one 2 years ago) it goes away? Nothing paranormal has happened it the past 6 or so months and tbh I miss it lol!

    I don't mind it anymore because I know who it is and he means no harm, when we talk about it we refer to the 'ghost' as 'him'.
    If I didn't feel I knew who it was and it meant no harm I would be long gone LOL.

    In the words of my father ''You should be more afraid of the living than the Dead" I guess its true:)
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        09-26-2012, 12:56 PM
      #12
    Showing
    I have my own beliefs based on many personal experiences, but I'm certainly not going to go into any real detail on an internet forum.

    Let's just say that science and the paranormal aren't as far apart as people would like to believe. Science is the study of the natural world, and yet it doesn't have answers for everything.

    Quantum physics, anyone? That defies most scientific logic as well as established theories, but it's not been dismissed as bunk. The theory of parallel universes is also based on science.

    I will say that I find it amazing that some people think this one small reality is the only life in which they believe. There's far more to existence and reality than what we encounter with our five senses.

    Also, not everything you encounter is a ghost. There are spirits and entities who are nonhuman, and some who have never drawn breath in any form. There are also those who do wish you harm, so saying you need to only be fearful of the living isn't exactly true.

    I was raised Roman Catholic. I still consider myself a Christian, but I'm as far from being a 'proper' Christian as one can get nowadays based on my experiences and changing beliefs.
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        09-26-2012, 01:54 PM
      #13
    Weanling
    I do not know what to believe it. I believe in the 'big bang theory' if you wish to call it that.

    I don't believe we are the only form of life in the universe.
    You say there are things that do wish to harm you but can they harm you is the question?
    Nothing 'bad' or 'evil' has happened to me but I do think they're are bad and evil non-living things out there.
    I'm not sure what that black figure was, I have not seen it since and I certainly do not wish to either.
    I was told that black figures are demons, I don't know if this is truth or lies.
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        09-26-2012, 02:11 PM
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    Originally Posted by JamieLeighx    
    You say there are things that do wish to harm you but can they harm you is the question?
    Yes.

    Many entities' sole purpose is to cause harm and death. They especially delight in those who don't believe, as it makes their task easier for them.

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    I was told that black figures are demons, I don't know if this is truth or lies.
    Demon is a human word to try and give a name to what humanity doesn't understand. Many of these entities transcend humanity and religion. They've been around much longer than that.

    Good and evil, Yin and Yang, light and dark. Neither can survive without the other, as they need the opposite to keep balance. However, I do believe that good is more powerful than evil.

    There are also entities to whom the human race mean very little. They're entirely neutral when it comes to humanity. Since they fall outside the human experience, whether they're good or evil has little bearing since they don't impact us much or at all. Elementals come to mind.
         
        09-26-2012, 02:16 PM
      #15
    Weanling
    Thank you Speed Racer for clearing that up, I find this all very interesting:)
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        09-26-2012, 02:24 PM
      #16
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    You're welcome.

    I know these are radical ideas for most people and I can't prove anything scientifically, but I also know there are people that have been helped by these 'crazy ideas', and I'm fine with them wanting to stay anonymous.

    The biggest thing we as humans need to overcome is fear of the unknown. Nothing is really supernatural, it's just not fully understood. With the things we don't understand, our natural inclinations are to deny their existence. Either that, or make up a niche and a dogma in which to place them.

    I know all of this sounds woo-woo, crazy, and some of you have probably reached the conclusion that my cheese has slid completely off my cracker, but I know what I know. I can't explain it any better than that.
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        09-26-2012, 02:32 PM
      #17
    Trained
    I do, but I was raised to believe they exist and from personal experience.

    I've worked at a summer camp for the last 5 summers and we have shadow people there. We don't know what they want or really why they are there, but they are generally pretty harmless and seem to be content just spooking us. I have a handful of stories from various camp staff, but I will only share the more significant of my own two sightings.

    We have horses at this camp and we have different levels of horse campers. We take the advanced level out on a camp out in a field one night during the week with the wranglers teaching that level. One of my camp outs in 2010 involved 4 female wranglers and 4 campers. It was in the middle of a 300 or so acre field where we have a camping site near a lake. At this site, we have a corral for our horses and a firepit a good distance from it. The lake had risen significantly that year, so we were fairly close to the water.

    I was speaking to fellow wrangler and looked past her because something caught my eye. There had been a small tree that was growing, but had drown because the lake now covered its roots. It was clearly a tree in the dark and you could make out its naked branches. But when I looked, it was filled in and I could make out a figure. I whispered to the girls I was with that we were being watched (we were out of earshot of the campers). They saw him walk up to the corral and I stopped looking.

    We all went to bed, I fell asleep, but the next morning, two wranglers said they heard it walking around us all night and when we went to go get saddled to go back to the main camp, our tack was all in disarray. BUT it was just the wranglers' tack. The kids' tack was not touched. It was the weirdest thing.

    Parents generally don't know about them because if a camper hears them mentioned, we just tell them that only staff can see them. It's a lie, but most smaller kids shrug it off because a shadow standing in the dark isn't all that noticeable unless you know what it would be.

    Another weird "spirit" occurrence: My grandpa passed away in June. My brother is at a rehab-type center and was out of town when it happened. He passed away at 11:20pm or so. My mom called my brother the next morning to tell him and the first thing he said was, "Grandpa died, didn't he?" My brother had woken up at about 11:30 crying because he had a dream my grandpa said goodbye.
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        09-26-2012, 02:34 PM
      #18
    Weanling
    ''My cheese has slid completely off my cracker'' that's a new one to me and I love it!:P

    I think science is truly amazing, who care if we sound crazy lol
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        09-26-2012, 02:41 PM
      #19
    Weanling
    Poseidon, amazing stories!
    Its interesting to hear other peoples encounters!
    I don't know how you slept that night, I don't think I could have!
    Your second story left me in complete awe, in a way it was nice of your Grandpa to say goodbye.
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        09-26-2012, 04:25 PM
      #20
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by JamieLeighx    
    Poseidon, amazing stories!
    Its interesting to hear other peoples encounters!
    I don't know how you slept that night, I don't think I could have!
    Your second story left me in complete awe, in a way it was nice of your Grandpa to say goodbye.
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    I was exhausted and I'm a very hard sleeper. They are generally harmless and are rarely interactive like that. You really only see them when you're walking and night and aren't thinking about them. You'll feel like you're being watched, then you'll see it. If you are consciously thinking, "Please leave me alone," you won't see them.

    The only person I know who has been hurt by one was after he chased it and tried to tackle it, and was suddenly pinned on the ground, unable to move for a second. He's not the brightest fellow though.

    Out of the stories I've heard over the last few years, there only appears to be 3 or 4 different entities. An average sized man (the one in my story), a massive man, and a little girl. The little girl has been seen playing with a little boy though too, but I've only heard about him once after two friends of mine saw both of them playing and heard them laughing. They automatically assumed they were campers and went around, waking up every counselor to count kids in each cabin. Everyone was where they should have been.

    The little girl is always heard laughing too, which makes it uber creepy, but from what I've heard, she's just playful.
         

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