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    01-31-2011, 02:39 PM
  #11
Yearling
I believe horses would rather sit in a pasture eating all day than being ridden. But now they can enjoy their jobs. My previous mare hated being caught/brushed/ saddled up/ but once she saw the barrel pattern she loved it.
     
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    01-31-2011, 02:44 PM
  #12
Weanling
Well although I do ride my horses and they act like my partner and we do have good communication, I still think that they are happy just running about and playing with each other. I don't think they need us to ride them.

I agree with you Drumrunner that horses become our partners and yes they will love back. But ya gotta know that there are lots of people out there that use fear, intimidation and violence but I shouldn't have mentioned it because that's not the focus of this thread.
     
    01-31-2011, 02:48 PM
  #13
Showing
OP, what you don't seem to realize is that if humans hadn't taken the horse under their protection, the animals we know today simply wouldn't exist.

Horses have been bred domestically for thousands of years. All of the horses today EXCEPT for Przewalski's are domestic bred. ALL of them, and that includes the feral horses.

The different breeds and characteristics that people love simply wouldn't be around, if humanity hadn't found a use for the horse and bred it to meet their own criteria. Dogs are exactly the same way. Humanity had a use for dogs, so bred them into existence.

TBs are specifically bred to bond with people and to want to go fast, which is what makes them such superb race horses.

I have no problem with people who want to have horses just to have them. If they never ride them, that's their business. But to say that horses prefer freedom is rather far fetched, since there isn't a horse on the planet (save Przewalski's) that were born free. They were all domestically bred, which makes them domestic livestock, not wild animals yearning for freedom.

Tell me, do you ride? If so, why? You seem to have disdain for people who 'make' their horses carry them around.
     
    01-31-2011, 03:06 PM
  #14
Foal
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Originally Posted by Speed Racer    
OP, what you don't seem to realize is that if humans hadn't taken the horse under their protection, the animals we know today simply wouldn't exist.

Horses have been bred domestically for thousands of years. All of the horses today EXCEPT for Przewalski's are domestic bred. ALL of them, and that includes the feral horses.

The different breeds and characteristics that people love simply wouldn't be around, if humanity hadn't found a use for the horse and bred it to meet their own criteria. Dogs are exactly the same way. Humanity had a use for dogs, so bred them into existence.

TBs are specifically bred to bond with people and to want to go fast, which is what makes them such superb race horses.

I have no problem with people who want to have horses just to have them. If they never ride them, that's their business. But to say that horses prefer freedom is rather far fetched, since there isn't a horse on the planet (save Przewalski's) that were born free. They were all domestically bred, which makes them domestic livestock, not wild animals yearning for freedom.

Tell me, do you ride? If so, why? You seem to have disdain for people who 'make' their horses carry them around.
Oh I do ride, I don't feel that way at all. I just found this an interesting topic, and wanted to know what everyone else thought bout it. I wanted it to lean more to the side of people who think it's cruel to keep a horse as a "pasture ornament" I suppose I over-emphasized a bit too much.
     
    01-31-2011, 03:15 PM
  #15
Showing
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Originally Posted by DiamondsMyLady    
Oh I do ride, I don't feel that way at all. I just found this an interesting topic, and wanted to know what everyone else thought bout it. I wanted it to lean more to the side of people who think it's cruel to keep a horse as a "pasture ornament" I suppose I over-emphasized a bit too much.
Please remember that some people have horses because they need them for their livelihood. If an animal isn't working, it's useless.

Beef cattle need to be able to continue to supply calves for either breeding (heifers) or beef (steers). Once a cow stops producing calves, she's turned into meat herself. A crippled cow horse is as useless to a rancher as a barren beef cow.

I don't think I've ever heard someone say it was cruel to let a horse just hang out and eat grass, but I've heard plenty of folks say the animal needs to earn its keep, which means working.
     
    01-31-2011, 03:16 PM
  #16
Weanling
I think the topic is whether it's cruel to let horses run and play in the pasture and not ride them or "use" them. Am I right?

I'm sure the freedom argument could also be interesting but maybe not the intention of this thread.
     
    01-31-2011, 03:18 PM
  #17
Weanling
Oh no I've heard people say it's cruel to not ride them. Maybe it's a city thing.
     
    01-31-2011, 03:19 PM
  #18
Trained
Tale of 3 horses:

1 - A horse I rode a few times on an Idaho ranch 30 years ago. He HATED being ridden...for pleasure. Put some cows in front of him, and he was all work. I was put on his back because he didn't need anyone there to move cattle. Think of a 1200 lb Border Collie. Doubt he liked being ridden, but he loved working cattle.

2 - My gelding. Likes exercise, but doesn't care how it comes. Doesn't mind being ridden, but doesn't act like it is a thrill.

3 - My mare. Likes to be ridden. Starts calling when she sees me carrying a saddle. She seems happy when a person she knows is on her back. Doesn't feel a need to socialize with me apart from riding.

All as best I can figure out. I do know that many Border Collies LOVE herding sheep and cattle. My first wouldn't breed while in heat if cattle were nearby. They aren't wolves, they are dogs. The same is true of horses. At least some horses enjoy people and doing things with them. They aren't the fanatics that a Border Collie would be, but they enjoy doing what they were bred to do.

Riding isn't abuse. It isn't robbing them of squat. I've never met a horse who wanted to run free...and find his own food, shelter, protection, etc. They may exist, but most want to be cared for.
     
    01-31-2011, 04:34 PM
  #19
Showing
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Originally Posted by DiamondsMyLady    
I see where you're coming from with stealing their freedom, but that was really just to emphasize that they used to just run about as they pleased and now they don't. But technically we did steal their freedom. (I'm not trying to argue, and change/discredit your opinion, just throwing my two cents in). They did as they pleased, now that can't. Not to say ALL horses would rather be "free" but before horses were used for our needs, they would have been quite content to be wild.
And I don't believe horses think that way. "Well this seems the better deal so lets go with that." We took them out of their natural habitat.
I'd rather be "free to do what I pleased," but then I'd have to fight with others to be fed, warm, and safe. The horses could "roam free" but they would not have protection from predators, food through the harsh winter, or protection from sickness.
You sacrifice some things to benefit from others; such as "freedom" (that comes with uncertainties such as famine, disease, predators etc) for safety, food, and protection. I'M not in my natural habitat... And I'm quite happy with that! I've got a full tummy, nice bed... Sure I have to work for it... But that's ok to me.
I could go live in the jungle or mountains and "live free" as my monkey ancestors did way back when, but I would probably, most certainly not live my normal life expectancy, and likely die a less-than-desirable death.
Horses... Well, they're far removed from their wild ancestors. If they have to work a little (*ahem* an hour or two a few times a week for most horses) for security and food, so be it.
More to my point, if horses weren't owned or ridden, they would be dead. If they were of no use to us (entertainment or otherwise) the majority simply wouldn't be here, they would be hunted out. We have too many "wild horses" right now as is... If the other few million were not owned by people now, they simply wouldn't exist.
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    01-31-2011, 04:43 PM
  #20
Started
I firmly believe both of my horses enjoy work. I can't leave them in the pasture for days without them getting a little "sad" (I put quotation marks because I do not know if horses can actually be sad). High Five, while under saddle, usually has his ears perked and they are constantly moving, he licks his lips often, and besides the occasional head throw (that's his way of saying "no"), he hardly ever acts up. Gracie is just the same. She's still learning, but she is very eager to please and tries for me.
     

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