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post #1 of 10 Old 09-23-2011, 04:13 PM Thread Starter
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Dog Breed Predjudice

When my mom was in her 20's she had a Big Gorgeous White German Shephard named Cortez.

she came home and Cortez was nowhere to be found (back in the day when a dog could stay in the backyard outside during the day if well behaved)

A neighbor came and told her the dog was taken to he APL as somebody called and said the dog was aggressive and attacked them... they euthanized him.

nobody at the APL asked or questioned (tested) if it was a aggressive dog or that if the the allegations were true. they believed it was true because he was a German Shephard.

It was a sad day and she still talks about that dog. :(

END BREED PREJUDICE! blame the people that make the dogs that way (by mishandling or not knowing how to deal with the breeds)
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post #2 of 10 Old 09-23-2011, 04:46 PM
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Unfortunately ignorant people will continue to be ignorant no matter what. You can't tell them anything unless they want to hear it.
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post #3 of 10 Old 09-23-2011, 08:02 PM
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That is sad.

Unfortunately you just have to set a good example by being a good owner.

Stupid people are going to be stupid, there is nothing you can do about it.

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post #4 of 10 Old 09-23-2011, 08:32 PM
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Yes it's sad that people judge by the breed, but they are no different from people who critisize horses because of breed (Arab's are highstrung and crazy and Appy's are stubborn, etc..) It all comes down to handling.
Yes, certain breeds are more sensitive than others and need proper handling, but they can be just as good and gentle as any other.
And honestly, i've seen more illtempered and "evil" chihuhua's & poms than large breed dogs. But again this comes down to handling. I'd go crazy too as a dog if my owner insisted on dressing me up, baby talking to me and only allowing me to walk on my own feet when i had to poo!

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Originally Posted by lilruffian View Post
Yes it's sad that people judge by the breed, but they are no different from people who critisize horses because of breed (Arab's are highstrung and crazy and Appy's are stubborn, etc..) !
Well I own both and that's true, well only in the sense that they are both smart in different ways

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Yes, certain breeds are more sensitive than others and need proper handling, but they can be just as good and gentle as any other.
And honestly, i've seen more illtempered and "evil" chihuhua's & poms than large breed dogs. But again this comes down to handling. I'd go crazy too as a dog if my owner insisted on dressing me up, baby talking to me and only allowing me to walk on my own feet when i had to poo!
You got that right, example we raised our JRT the same as we raised the Dobies, we had the same expectations of behavior, being little and cute gets you no free passes.

There are breeds that shouldn't be owned by novice dog owners, there are dog owners who should only ever be allowed to own a stuffed toy dog, but there are very few nasty dogs, and it isn't breed specific, the only difference is in the amount of damage that one can do!
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love the picture, and it's so true. when WILL we blame the humans? :(
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I have been around 6 Pit Bulls and 2 mixes. All of them was calm and enjoyable to be around. Two of the Pit Bulls were handled and rough housed on by two little girls. Only one of these dogs every showed aggression and that was only towards strange males, not females and never kids. I have been attacked and bite by dogs, needless to say one was a Lab and one was little show bred of dog, can't remember the name and actually most I met of the bred seemed meaner, but it depended on how they was raised I meant two that wasn't. It depends on the owners.

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I worked for a vet for 2.5 years when I was in high school. I did mostly boarding, but also helped out around the clinic as needed (and this included helping restrain dogs). I worked with every common breed and mix (and some uncommon ones) imaginable, even some wolf hybrids. The only dog I was EVER bitten by in that 2.5 years was a 3lbs pomeranian named Pookie whose owners were the kind that are unfit to even own a stuffed toy dog. All I did was reach down to slip the lead off Pookie after I put him in the outside run to go to the bathroom while I cleaned his cage. He whipped around with no warning (and I came from the front of him, so he saw me coming) and nailed me so hard he ripped my finger open.

On the other extreme, we had a German shepherd come in that had been severely abused. Her owner had her as a breeding dog, but all she ever produced were pet-quality puppies (not her fault...she had great conformation, but the males she was bred to were horrible examples of the breed). Whenever her puppies weren't show quality, the owner would beat her. This is all by her own admission! Anastasia was so TERRIFIED of everyone that she would lunge at the kennel gate, snarling and snapping. I decided that, since she was with us for almost two weeks, I was going to get her to at least let me take her out of her run to go to the bathroom. I spent a whole day sitting in front of her cage with treats, tossing them to her and luring her closer, until finally, right before I had to leave, she actually ate one out of my hand. I stayed a little longer and was able to get her to let me come into her run and sit. She crawled into my lap within minutes of me sitting down and stayed there until I left. By the end of the two weeks she was with us, she would walk at heel without a lead, had perfect recall and was excited to see me. I didn't train her, mind you, she was already obedience trained...she just needed someone to trust and someone to love her so she would want to obey them (the lady who owned her could barely control her...and beat her for that, too). I cried when the lady came to pick up Anastasia and offered to buy her (hang what my parents said about no second dog...they would have understood had they known where Anastasia came from), but the lady was all snobby and said I couldn't afford a dog like Anastasia.

Most of the wolf hybrids we had come in were really sweet dogs (once you got them to trust you). We had akitas, rotties, pits, shepherds of all sizes, American bulldogs--all the "notoriously bad" breeds--come in and they were all the sweetest things on four legs. The bad ones were the JRTs (we had four that were rescues that belonged to the same people and I HATED those dogs!), chihuahuas, pomeranians--all the "cute little dogs." Heck, the dog that hated me the absolute most was a golden retriever named Sam. Anyone else could handle him with no problems, but if I so much as walked past his run, he tried to attack me (unless I told him it was time to go home and then he loved me lol). I never did anything to Sam, so I don't know why I earned his hate.

I had a pit/dane mix in college who was a wonderful dog. Got him as a six-week-old puppy from the pound. He was stolen off my front porch as a five-month-old, but I ended up finding him at the pound again six months later (he had gone from being a black puppy that looked like a pit to being a tall, lanky thing with a dane body and a pit head lol). Not sure what happened to him while he was gone, but when I got him he was extremely food aggressive toward other dogs. I took him to get his rabies shot and the vet and techs refused to restrain him, based solely on his looks. So, I told him to sit and put a hand on his collar, then told the vet to go ahead. He never moved a muscle. The vet was so impressed by his temperament (after she realized that he was actually very sweet). He looked like a big, mean dog...because he looked like a tall, lanky dane with a big block of a pit head stuck on its neck, and he was mostly black.
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What a horrible story.

Like Phillip and Eliz said, there is no reasoning with people who don't want to listen. Narrow minds abound, unfortunately. It's unrealistic to hope for the prejudices to end.

I work at a vet clinic back in the boarding kennels. I gave baths to a German Shepherd and a HUGE Rottweiler, and they were two of the most wonderful dogs I've ever met. While all the other dogs were barking their heads off, those two were perfectly silent and polite. They were just awesome. And I'm not even a dog person.

On the other hand, there's a beagle from hell there. The little turd bit my manager and drew blood. We can't handle him at all because he's so nasty. Go figure.

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Already had a pretty controversial thread on pitbulls.

Those that feel they're slavering beasts just waiting to rip open innocent children, won't be swayed by any arguments, logic, or first hand experience from people who knows these dogs.

Link to earlier thread:

Dogs: Raising a Pit Bull
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