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post #11 of 63 Old 04-05-2014, 06:40 PM
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Patrons should have waited until the wait staff had placed all of the food on the table, then pray after the wait staff are on their way. I'd call it impolite to hold up restaurant employees. If the parents can't hold their kids off the food that long, then as we say in the horse biz, that's due to a lack of training. LOL
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You know... You can always tell who's your TRUE friend (or loving neighbor) when they love you and respect you despite your actions and differences.

One time DH and I went out with some good friends to a show. I had taken a new medication earlier that day and completely forgot. They reacted with my two drinks and I grew horns.
Later that evening we all stopped in at a sandwich joint before heading home.
I was out of my mind and when my friend blew her straw wrapper at me, I became demented...
I chucked my sandwich CLEAR across the restaurant and started growling!

DH was mortified, but my friends to this day laughingly bring it up every time we go out. We STILL go out.

So a tiny little prayer is really nothing to be embarrassed about, really.
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post #13 of 63 Old 04-05-2014, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Tack Collector View Post
Patrons should have waited until the wait staff had placed all of the food on the table, then pray after the wait staff are on their way. I'd call it impolite to hold up restaurant employees. If the parents can't hold their kids off the food that long, then as we say in the horse biz, that's due to a lack of training. LOL
exactly,I pray at restaurants but never would I even consider beginning while food was still being placed on the table. The waiter was other things to do, other tables to serve to essentially trap them at my table would be so rude and disrespectful.
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Living in a village with only a few restaurants, the staff dread these people coming in. The staff is courteous but there's always the hope they will go to the other restaurant. It's not a quick prayer, it's a dissertation.
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Samstead, do you pray aloud like these people, or just have what appears to others as a few moments of silence?
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post #16 of 63 Old 04-05-2014, 07:58 PM
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My family always prays at restaurants. We do wait for the server to finish setting our food. But I agree with shoebox, you should respect there right to pray. They did not force you to participate. It's sad that you say the places in town hope they dine elsewhere just because they pray. I would think this is a common thing that happens at restaurants. The server however should get use too people it. Especially if she continues working there.

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I would have ignored it and tucked in.
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post #18 of 63 Old 04-05-2014, 08:01 PM
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Here's the thing. My father was a fully ordained, highly educated United Church minister. There is no way ever would he have made a public spectacle of his beliefs. As kids, he told us that if we wanted to pray, or say grace, it would be fine to do it in the car before we went in. In the Bible, Jesus says to closet your beliefs - to keep it to yourself. They forget about that passage. Praying over food had it's origins in the Jewish faith many centuries ago. The food was sold in open air markets and a Rabbi would inspect then bless the meat which meant it was safe to eat. Somehow it's at every meal and few are Jewish. As for dining with these folks again, no I won't be. I don't like all the attention their praying attracts, the dirty looks from both staff and patrons. And yes, when talking quietly to the waitress, I was reminded to hush, that they were praying.

I'd like to see the Biblical reference where Jesus says to 'closet your beliefs'? That's a new one on me.

As for the OP it doesn't seem your neighbors were being arrogant any more than I would think you were being arrogant 'not' participating in the prayer.

As a server, I would proceed in my job according to my own beliefs. (recognizing you may not receive a tip if the patrons think you are rude) I think it is the human condition that makes us feel we should be respectful of someone's beliefs, nothing wrong with being respectful ever. I am a christian and I try to be respectful of others spiritual persuasion or the lack thereof but I don't dislike or hate anyone because they don't believe as I do.
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Good thing you don't have my job.... what they neglected to mention when hiring me is that not only is it a family business, they are highly RELIGIOUS.

Prayers over employee lunches (yes, out loud in the muddle of the Country Club), prayers over the business itself at the bi-weekly manager meeting and on and on. I am constantly reminded that God has big plans for us and on and on.

Oh well... at least they seem to have good moral values. I had a very horrified phone call from a salesman yesterday, apparently the potential clientele he was entertaining for the day were insisting on lunch at the local strip club. Horrified salesman excused himself and called ME for help..... I have no idea what he thought I would come up with, it certainly wasn't my response of laughing my a$$ off and telling him to enjoy his lunch at the strip club, though! He apparently got them to agree to lunch at the Twin Peaks (appears to be a Hooters sort of place from their website) but was all sorts of embarrassed that *I* would be seeing the charges on his credit card!!
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post #20 of 63 Old 04-05-2014, 08:12 PM
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Interesting, aside from not waiting until the server had delivered all the plates and was on their way, it would not occur to me that to pray before a meal was rude. And I am not Christian! I agree that it is impolite, at best, to hold your server up while other people's food gets cold, etc.

I can't say that I've ever thought much of it when I've noticed that another table is blessing the food (or whatever you choose to call it) before eating. Them doing so is a good thing as I see it- faith is not a problem, and them doing isn't going to magically convert me or cause harm, so what's the issue? My people at my table just ignore other tables and carry on eating and conversing while those that care to do what they do at their own table continue on their merry way too. I don't see it as 'pushing their belief on me' at all.

Now, when the military has sanctioned prayers, food blessings and the like at mandatory events (I am active duty) that DOES make me a little uncomfortable as it is always a Christian blessing and I am not Christian, but I take the moment, stand quietly, and give thanks in my own way while they do so. I can't say anyone has ever cornered me/make note of the fact that I did not/do not pray with them when they do, and so long as it stays that way, live and let live. I do not hesitate to go out to dinner (or eat at the homes) with my religious friends. Everyone has a right to their faith, even if it is different from my own.
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