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    10-03-2010, 10:45 PM
  #1
Foal
Exclamation Everyones opinion wanted! Please post your thoughts on this

Do you think its right to kill and eat any animal? I mean if you ride a horse, don't you think a goat, or lamb, cow, or even chicken should be treated with love also? Its not their fault their a different breed, or species. I mean, do you all think its right to kill a animal, or breed a animal just so it can be eaten? And I know lots of people may say, but what about lettuce it grows, and you rip it up and chew it, but I don't think anyone has lettuce as a pet. Its just don't you think a cow should be treated with love, and affection, just like you would treat a horse or a dog? And its sorta of cruel in my opinion, we actually have a farm down the road, they keep baby cows in about 5 feet by 2 feet pens and feed them, and then slaughter them, they do this so they live horrible lives where they can't build muscle and its just fat. Also, when they kill chickens, if the chickens don't die from a heart attack first, this is how they slaughter them-they put the chickens alive on a conveyor belt on the ceiling of the factory or whatever, the chickens hang by their feet and soon run into a blade, it usually cuts off their head, though sometimes, a chicken either doesn't get killed by the blade, or either just gets cuts and bleeds to death, OR they continue to hang on the belt completely alive until they go through the cycle again, or die of a heart attack. And its not just cattle, chickens, or pigs. Its all animals, in some country's they eat animals you call pets, like Germany eats horses, some places eat dogs, and cats, and America has tons of animal cruelty problems, which include setting animals such as puppys and kittens on fire, whether on a BBQ grill or in a dirt pit, some just get abused or neglected, other buried alive, some buried only with their head sticking out and then ran over by lawn mowers, some shot, some "pet" birds get stuck in toasters and ovens, hamsters usually get stuck in microwaves, which to some people is funny, either way, post your thoughts on this subject.
     
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    10-03-2010, 10:51 PM
  #2
Weanling
Honestly it sickens me about how animals die, I feel so bad for each and every suffering. But it's the way of life.. It's the circle of life that we can't change. In the wild, animals eat others lower than them on the food chain. We need meat in our diets. I just wish there was a more humane way for these animals...
     
    10-03-2010, 10:53 PM
  #3
Foal
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honestly it sickens me about how animals die, I feel so bad for each and every suffering. But it's the way of life.. It's the circle of life that we can't change. In the wild, animals eat others lower than them on the food chain. We need meat in our diets. I just wish there was a more humane way for these animals...
I agree we do, but fish is meat! My friends dad is vegan, he is like 50 years old and his skin hasnt aged at all, I think meat and sugar is a really big problem when it comes to aging.
     
    10-03-2010, 11:18 PM
  #4
Green Broke
I come from a family of hunters, elk and deer mostly. Also fishing. That's what the majority of livestock is here for. To eat. Not to be pets. The baby cows are made into veal. I don't like the taste of it, but I know a lot of people that do. As well as lamb chops.

And you're talking about two different things. Livestock versus abuse of pets. Not all slaughterhouses use cruel methods. There should be more regulations to make sure dispatching the animal is humane.

I find a lot of hypocritical people out there that say don't eat cows or other animals but these same people drive in cars with leather seats, wear leather shoes, carry leather wallets and handbags. Makes me wonder if they know where those come from.
     
    10-03-2010, 11:33 PM
  #5
Trained
I don't like death. I will be the first to admit that I could probably not butcher my own animal. However many of the animals we have today would probably die out if it weren't for us eating them. The big one in mind being cows. Or become hugely over populated with nowhere to go (because of humans) the biggest example being deer.

So long as the animal is treated as humane as possible, I don't think raising them to kill them is cruel. During their life, I think they should be in a clean, well - ventilated shelter, be treated with respect, and not abused. Contrary to what peta and youtube videos tell you, a lot of the times this is the case.

As far as horses, I'd rather we raised specific horses for human consumption. Regulate them like cattle or pigs, process them here in America. There's obviously a lot more details that would have to be sorted for that to happen, but I'd back it.

I don't think there is anything wrong with eating dogs, cats, etc. My one issue is with bush meat or any other endangered animal/poaching. If they were not in danger of dying out you could eat a gorilla for all I care. So long as it is treated with dignity in life and death.
     
    10-03-2010, 11:34 PM
  #6
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I mean, do you all think its right to kill a animal, or breed a animal just so it can be eaten?
Absolutely. I like meat. I think it would be way meaner to eat it while it was still alive .

You will find animal abuse in SOME slaughter houses, but certainly not all. You will also find it in plenty of homes....to animals that are SUPPOSED to be their pets. Put your efforts towards stopping that instead of trying to convince people that animals should not be slaughtered and that all slaughter houses abuse animals.

And hey, if you feel so strongly about it...do something that can make a difference. I'm sure you already know that whining about it here won't change a thing. I find that most people who start this kind of thread don't really want to actually DO anything anyway...they just want to get a debate or argument started.

BTW, what does this have to do with horse health?
     
    10-04-2010, 12:12 AM
  #7
Weanling
I'm vegetarian because I don't agree with how the animals COULD be treated. I mean if 50% of the slaughterhouses were humane and the other half inhumane, do you really always know what meat is coming from where? I don't hunt personally (not because im against it), but I would rather eat a deer that lived its whole life free, than a cow or chicken that was penned up its whole life whether it was treated well or not. Whether anyone wants to accept it or not, they still feel pain and they will still fight to live as long as they can, just like we do. (believe me, im not trying to bash anyone who eats meat, that's just how I feel :] )
     
    10-04-2010, 12:18 AM
  #8
Trained
All the beef cattle here are free range. They wander on thousands and thousands of acres. Same with the sheep where I live in NZ. You can buy free range. You can do your research and make the correct steps if you want to know where your meat is coming from.
Yes animals feel pain, but they can be killed before they know what is happening if done correctly. Of course there are bad people. Just because other people abuse their horses, dogs, cats, children...doesn't mean I won't have them. I'll just educate myself and make my own decisions :)

If I lived my life avoiding things because of the worst case scenario... well I'd be SOL.
     
    10-04-2010, 12:21 AM
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All the beef cattle here are free range. They wander on thousands and thousands of acres. Same with the sheep where I live in NZ. You can buy free range. You can do your research and make the correct steps if you want to know where your meat is coming from.
Yes animals feel pain, but they can be killed before they know what is happening if done correctly. Of course there are bad people. Just because other people abuse their horses, dogs, cats, children...doesn't mean I won't have them. I'll just educate myself and make my own decisions :)

If I lived my life avoiding things because of the worst case scenario... well I'd be SOL.

Exactly!
     
    10-04-2010, 12:34 AM
  #10
Weanling
I like my meat, but I'm all for the welfare of animals. I try my ****dest to make sure my meat is humanely killed.
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