Evolution or creationism: which do you prefer?

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View Poll Results: Evolution or creatonism, which do you prefer?
Theory of evolution 30 54.55%
Creatonism/intelligent design 17 30.91%
uncertain 3 5.45%
other (please explain) 5 9.09%
Voters: 55. You may not vote on this poll

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    12-30-2009, 01:22 PM
Evolution or creationism: which do you prefer?

This is my first time attempting to make a poll thread so bear with me if the poll is faulty!

It has come to my attention that only 39% of Americans believe in evolution, which I find a little surprising especially since it is often taught in schools. I personally do believe in the theory of evolution because of the overwhelming evidence for it. So, what do you believe is true? Healthy debate is welcome, mindless arguing is not.
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    12-30-2009, 01:35 PM
Evolution. There pretty much hasn't been a doubt in my mind about it ever. The evidence, as you say, is overwhelming.
    12-30-2009, 01:45 PM
They are both "theory's" so neither can be proven...yet. I'm holding my opinion until one or the other is cold hard scientific fact. I'm sure I will be holding it a long time.

One relys on faith the other science, I believe in both
    12-30-2009, 01:47 PM
Evolution. Always have and always will.
    12-30-2009, 01:55 PM
Originally Posted by Vidaloco    
They are both "theory's" so neither can be proven...yet. I'm holding my opinion until one or the other is cold hard scientific fact. I'm sure I will be holding it a long time.
This is a point that I hear quite often. However, it is necessary to understand the definition of a theory. A theory is "a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world; an organized system of accepted knowledge". Basically, a theory is something that is well-supported and usually accepted as true. The nature of science thrives on skepticism and doubt to create positive change, and the theory of evolution has gone through this. By comparison, creationism is more of a hypothesis- an idea created on observation that has not yet been widely proven, a proposal. For a hypothesis to become a theory, it must be "testable" to be proven true.
    12-30-2009, 01:57 PM
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I believe in a mix of intelligent design and evolution. I believe that God made the first humans and a large selection of the first animals/plants etc, then evolution kinda took over and created the life forms we know today.

I choose to believe that becuase of my spiritual beliefs and because I don't see how it's possible for 2 humans to magically rise out of the ocean within 30/40 years of each other. I don't see how that's possible. But I do believe that it's likely for horses, for instance, to have all started out with a common ancestor then changed over the years into the horses we know as horses today. Same thing with dogs and wolves, if God created a wolf I don't see why a dog could have come from that eventually.

That's just my belief.

With your 39% poll number thingy, I think that mostly stems from that fact that the US is still, fundamentally, based on christian values. Most of my friends in school (public school) would have called themselves "christians" and would have reverted back to the creation story from the Bible when anyone questioned them about evolution/creatonism. Those kids were not living any semblance of a "christian" life and if you asked them what they believed in, they most likely wouldn't know, but for some reason they held on the creation story like their lives depended on it. Haha
Also, at least at my high school, biology was not a required course for most kids. None of the more advanced sciences were actually, so most kids at my school never learned about genetics/how plants work/chemistry, that sorta thing. I took Biology and even though the teacher was an evolution fanatic, her way of explaining how evolution worked mainly revolved around her overhead projector, a few overheads of neonatal animals that looked like each other and the question "why do these fetuses look the same if they aren't related through evolution?". Needless to say, that didn't really convince anyone.

Goodness, I wrote a lot. Haha
    12-30-2009, 02:00 PM
Im Agnostic. I don't know if there's a great creator out there or what that entails, I don't think any of us will ever know. However, I think there certainly could be.
So in that regard I agree with Wallaby. I believe in evolution. It's hard for me to understand how you could not. However I think it's possible for there to be a God as well as evolution.
    12-30-2009, 02:01 PM
I believe some things are created perfect, while others are not. Some things have evolved, there is proof. There has been an evolution of finches (i believe its a finch) that has been documented recently.
Tiny organisms, and even large ones have gone unchanged for centuries, while people are constantly evolving from what they were a few hundred years ago (intellect and looks.)
    12-30-2009, 02:02 PM
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I voted uncertain,

Since I belive these two different views don't rule each others out.

ETA: Over here they teach both of theories in the school but doesn't offer them as unquestionable truth, especially the religious one. (Over here over 70% of people are evangelical lutherans and that's why there are religious education in school. If you aren't a member of that church you don't need to participate and I assume then you won't been taught that Christian creationism theory).
    12-30-2009, 02:07 PM
I do not, and will not ever associate myself with evolution or intelligent design. I am a Christian, I believe God created the universe, earth, the plants, the animals, and the ecosystems for each one. And that He has a purpose for each and every organism on this planet and others out there in the universe if there are such.

And going back to the OP's fact that you are surprised that only 39% of those in schools believe in Evolution. Think about this. When I was in 9th grade, my BIOLOGY teacher was a dead-on Christian, and even though he did not believe in what he was teaching, didn't stop him from following curriculum. He told us all at the beginning of the year, that he was only teaching what he was told to, and that those of us who disagreed with the teachings, did not have to participate.
You want to know the amount of us in the class who actually stood up for what we believed in, and indeed almost got failed because our teacher still graded by normal standards even though he disagreed himself? 6 of us, out of the 28 in that class. I still never found out if anyone else in the class besides those 6, including myself who stood up for our faith(we all almost failed because we did stand firm in what we believed) just lied about their faith, or just were ignorant and acted as if it didn't bother them just to get a perfect grade.
My point is, those facts about the 39% may be off. Whether it be greater in the Evolution percentage, or the other percentage is beyond me. But what I'm saying is. As sad as it makes me, it's true. Not all of us who disagree with the theories of Evolution, Intelligent Design, and whatnot-else, actually speak up for it.

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