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post #1 of 8 Old 07-05-2012, 01:29 PM Thread Starter
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Question Fat vs Calories

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Does anyone know anything about nutrition? I just had 4 turkey hot dogs without buns for lunch. At 100 calories each, that seems fine in the calorie department. At 8 grams of fat each, though, that's 32 grams of fat. That just seems... wrong.

I've always heard that it was excess calories that turned to fat. What happens when you consume excess fat but a reasonable number of calories? I'm trying to determine whether it was a bad idea to pickup the box of turkey hotdogs from Costco after all. Thanks!
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post #2 of 8 Old 07-05-2012, 01:32 PM
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Mike, don't get too involved into "calories" thing. First of all, it depends on person how and where those calories go, second there are different "calories" out there.

P.S. One hotdog with one bun may be more beneficial than 4 hotdogs and no buns. Lol!

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Eat real food, mostly vegetables, and exercise. The rest will take care of itself.

I figure a calorie is a calorie, end of story. Then again, I am not a person who has to worry about high cholesterol (yet). If you can eat 100 calories in one form and feel full for a while so you're not snacking on more calories, that would be more preferable than the 100 cal in another form that leaves you hungry in 20 minutes. Just like horses, I don't think there IS a one-size-fits-all plan for healthy eating.

ETA: I am a person who NEEDS fat in my food. No fat, no full feeling for me, and usually a blood sugar crash in a bit which means that I wind up eating more calories that I would otherwise.

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Check the label for "calories from fat."

Unfortunately it is a little more than just counting calories, since fat content does play a role in being healthy. As do protein, carbs, and sugars.

The reason the food pyramid is set up as it is, is because we need a good mix of foods. Generally speaking, when someone is "counting calories" it is because they are eating too much of one thing, or just too much in general. Those foods that are high calorie, such as cookies and chips, lack any other nutrients needed for our bodies. Thus when counting calories, you cannot eat as much of those foods, since they are high in calories. This covers part of the picture of health, but not all. You can eat only 2000 calories a day, but if it is all hot dogs, then it doesn't necessarily mean its healthy, or that it will help you lose weight.

A balanced diet consists of SERVING SIZE portions, and lots of water, fruit, and veggies. This, balanced with proteins and carbohydrates, is what makes a diet healthy. Controlling portion sizes, not eating til you are "stuffed", and cutting out empty calories is much better for you than just cutting calories altogether.

So in a word, yes, it is more than just counting calories. Where those calories come from is important as well. Although counting calories alone is better than just eating whatever.

When I "diet" I count calories, as well as fat content and carbohydrates. I make sure to have a protein source, and plenty of fruits and veggies. I choose water instead of soda or sugary drinks, and go for walks or runs to keep active.

Another thing to consider is that almost everything is okay in moderation. Cookies are not evil, but choose to have 2, not 12. Same with sugars and soda, etc. Choose a small amount to satisfy yourself, and it will be much more sustainable than cutting out those foods in the long run.
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Thanks for the info, guys. I appreciate your answers to my question and the nutrition advice offered in general.

I believe 80 out of the 100 calories in each hot dog were from fat. I feel very sluggish after eating the four of them, but I've been up since 3:30 am today, so the fact that I'm feeling this way right after lunch could just be a coincidence.
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Thanks for the info, guys. I appreciate your answers to my question and the nutrition advice offered in general.

I believe 80 out of the 100 calories in each hot dog were from fat. I feel very sluggish after eating the four of them, but I've been up since 3:30 am today, so the fact that I'm feeling this way right after lunch could just be a coincidence.

Yeah, 8 grams of fat is 72 calories. If the hot dogs were 100 calories each, you are eating "food" that is 72% fat - not good. Just becasuse something is a "turkey dog" or "turkey burger" doesn't necessarily mean it is lean. Most turkey products have rendered fat added to them as the meat is so dry. You have to look at the labels of turkey products closely to determine if they are turkey or turkey plus fat...
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You can eat a reasonable number of calories from chocolate bars and McDonalds and lose weight. However, that doesn't mean you'll be healthy. :p
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A calorie is a calorie, however what your body does with the source of the calorie is an entirely different thing. You want to eat foods low in transfats as those do nothing for your muscle building ability. As we age we lose muscle mass, 5% every few years after the age of forty. Less muscle you have, less calories it takes to gain weight, so you must maintain & build muscle to boost your metabolism. Eat more protein than carbs and all the carbs you ingest should be in the form of whole grains or natural carbs such as fruit. Protein is lean meat (such as skinless chicken, pork tenderloin, beef tenderloin, fish, filet mignon, turkey), soy, beans, low fat dairy, vegetables. Whole grains are just that, whole grains. Look on the package at the list of ingredients, if it doesn't say WHOLE wheat, oats, whatever, don't eat it, it's processed. Anything processed doesn't help your cause at all, such as processed meats-the worst (hotdogs of any kind is processed), processed sugars, grains, all garbage. Also white rice is processed, chose brown or even better, wild rice. Only whole wheat pasta, after awhile it becomes 2nd nature and you won't even like the taste of garbage food. Of course you have to couple that with exercise, something that gets your heartrate up for at least 30 minutes if not more.

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