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    03-26-2013, 05:33 PM
Green Broke
Gay Marriage Is going to Supreme Court!

I couldn't be happier. This little blurb is off a facebook basically saying what today and tomorrow can bring for same-sex couples... it's about **** time!.

Tuesday and Wednesday are the beginning of what may be the single most important cases to come before the United States Supreme Court in our lifetime.

On Tuesday, the court hears the opening arguments challenging California's Proposition 8. It centers on the principle that all Americans deserve the right to marry the one they love, and that that freedom should not be denied based on sexual orientation.

On Wednesday, the court hears arguments on the Federal Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), which denies those lawfully-married same-sex couples in the states which allow same-sex marriage from receiving the more than 1,138 federal rights, benefits and protections based on marital status. These include access to Social Security and tax benefits, family and medical leave, immigration rights, federal health coverage and much more.

Think of what could be next? ::Crosses fingers:: Maybe federal recognition of same-sex marriages, in place of state by state marriage laws?
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    03-26-2013, 05:47 PM
... Im still just astounded that people think they have a right to dictate who can love or marry who and that it's such a big issue to begin with. So long as you aren't hurting anyone else, who cares? For all I care someone could marry their pet goldfish (figuratively speaking, of course, for all the literal people...)
    03-26-2013, 06:02 PM
In the past, marriage laws were supposed to protect women and children from uncaring men. Don't know if that ever worked that way. However, one would be hard pressed to find a society in the last 5,000 years that actively promoted marriage between homosexuals.

This is technically not a homosexual marriage case at all. I seriously doubt the Supreme Court is going to require all states to start holding homosexual marriages - although no power grab is beyond possibility with the Supreme Court. This is about letting people in a state decide to ban homosexual marriages in that state - a 'right' that has been automatic since 1776. The idea that the US Constitution REQUIRES homosexual marriage is pretty ludicrous.

In any case, here are the oral arguments for anyone interested:

68 pages of text.
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    03-26-2013, 06:06 PM
I just say live and let or straight......the only thing I find amusing, yet it is what it is, is that the bible says that homosexuality is a sin, yet homosexuals want to marry which to my knowledge 'marriage' is a biblical principal...... I don't get it

But I'm a floater, I can see most things from most angles
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    03-26-2013, 06:14 PM
Marriage as a religious ceremony is up to the religion. Marriage as a civil ceremony probably depends on what government is trying to promote. Prior to around 1960, when women had extremely restricted employment opportunities, having strict civil contracts as a part of marriage probably provided badly needed protection to the women, and to kids as well.

In a world of no fault divorce, I'm more inclined to think government should get out of the marriage business. When single, I resented paying more in taxes than a married man.

OTOH, I'm not sure I'm ready for polygamy to make a comeback either...
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    03-26-2013, 06:23 PM
Supreme Court On Gay Marriage: 'Sure, Who Cares' | The Onion - America's Finest News Source
    03-26-2013, 06:29 PM
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Get real....marriage is FAR more than a religious ideal. It is a contract, whether religious or secular. It give LEGAL protections of property, health/medical rights and child legal status. There is a LOT on trial here.

I have a student and very good friend who is in a LONGterm same sex relationship where two children have been produced. They are fabulous children with two loving parents. When NC passed their constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage, they effectively labeled these children as Bast@rds, which I find horrible. Her partner has no legal status where the family/children are concerned.

How does their having a contractual protection hurt anyone?
    03-26-2013, 06:30 PM
I just say live and let or straight......the only thing I find amusing, yet it is what it is, is that the bible says that homosexuality is a sin, yet homosexuals want to marry which to my knowledge 'marriage' is a biblical principal...... I don't get it
Marriage has become intertwined with government, which is where the problem lies. I think any religion has the right to make their own rules, for sure. To each their own. But, married couples get rights, tax breaks, etc, etc etc.... That regular couples don't get. If it were STRICTLY religious, then by means, leave it between the religious folks to deal with.
    03-26-2013, 06:32 PM
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I sure wish I would go that way.
    03-26-2013, 06:38 PM
Green Broke
Yawn,,, I don't care much one way or the other, and certainly don't rank it as a lifetime event. The court is so politicized right and wrong doesnt really matter anyway.
Freedom should be about doing whatever you want unless it really hurts someone else. I fail to see how two dudes getting married hurts me. If you don't like gay marriage, don't have one. If you think gay marriage is a sin, well that's their problem now isnt it. If your right they go to hell, oh well to bad so sad, again how does that affect me ? Seems the media, the gay groups, politicians, and religious groups are all caught up in arguing about whether it is right or wrong. And that is very sad. The argument should be whether or not it hurts someone else. If it doesnt then the government has no business prohibiting it. If it does then please explain it to me.

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