Gay Rights - Page 11
 
 

       The Horse Forum > Life Beyond Horses > General Off Topic Discussion

Gay Rights

This is a discussion on Gay Rights within the General Off Topic Discussion forums, part of the Life Beyond Horses category

    Like Tree214Likes

     
    LinkBack Thread Tools
        07-02-2012, 12:02 AM
      #101
    Weanling
    *Stopped reading after page 8 lol Juss got bored. Wanted to voice my opinion- Srry If Im beating a dead horse

    -Food for a Christian's Thought- (Angle of Homo vs Bible)
    People sin. We lie, fight, kill, and steal- We're born to be bad. God gave us the option to resist sin by following his words/warnings. And after our "heart" is His we must continue to follow his example ect ect ect But when so ever that slip up occurs when must ask forgivness- If being a homosexual is a sin can it not be forgiven? I've been taught that no sin is larger than another. So If I say the Lords name in vain- is it larger than loving my same gender? No.

    Just because somebody is gay doesnt mean christian have to exclude them from their religious group. I Proudly escort my gay friend every Sunday into my church- The people there teem with actual HATE- They hate him for who he is- They hate him to the point where he is in tears walking past the judgmental eyes. But he holds my hand tight- Because he knows God doesnt hate him- Its the ignorant sheepthat do. He says "if being a queer is a sin- Then Imrollingin it, but the day that somebody tellsme MY god hates me for who I am then I hopetoGod, he brings the Same hate Upon them"

    And Juss sayin Didn't people back in the day do about the same thing to black folks? Denied marraige/rights- Treated worst than dogs, people refused to offer them equality... can't Gay Haters see they are doing the same thing? Sure we bucke that one off to "Well they are human-" OH WAIT!?!?! Arent gays human? Nawww They just can't be- Therefore I do not believe they should have rights DURRRRP.Seriously People.

    "And that's all I have to say about That." -Forrest Gump
    Ray MacDonald likes this.
         
    Sponsored Links
    Advertisement
     
        07-02-2012, 12:19 AM
      #102
    Trained
    Horse Poor, my father was not Jewish.
    Orthodox Judaism only recognizes the marriages of a jewish man to a jewish woman. In their eyes and beliefs my mother was not married.
    Since my mother married a non jew she had to go to a civil ceremony.
    Reform and Conservative Rabbis can perform interfaith marriages and samesex marriages.
    It is up to the indvidual Rabbi to decide.
    I am a therapist each relationship is different and cannot be compared to another.
    Just like indidual actions have no impact on yours unless you allow them, to.
    This topic has changed dramatically in the last 10 years.
    Today over 50% of the US population favors equal marriage rights for all.
    That number will increase with acceptance and understanding.
    Shalom
         
        07-02-2012, 01:15 AM
      #103
    Yearling
    Interesting! I was told, by a Jew, that the Torah expressly forbids homosexual acts. Are you saying there are different types of Judaism? Like there are different types of Christianity? Ie. Catholic, Baptists, Presbyterian, etc? You know, different interpretations of the same book?
         
        07-02-2012, 01:51 AM
      #104
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Horse Poor    
    Is marriage "merely a word not an institution" in your faith? Does the Jewish faith allow gay marriages? Can a Rabbi perform same sex marriages?
    Like I said, no-one gets to dibs words. Words cannot be owned by anyone, including institutions such as the Catholic Church. A word is a word is a word.
    Speed Racer likes this.
         
        07-02-2012, 07:59 AM
      #105
    Trained
    Horse Poor there are different denominations is Judaism.
    Reform which is progressive.
    Conservative which is a mixture of progressive and traditional.
    Orthodox. Which is conservative and has a rigid interpretation of the biblical text.
    Ultra Orthodox who rigidly adhere to the biblecal text and usually live seperately from non jews. These are the people you see wearing black hats and the women cover heads and arms.
    The Hebrew bible states that homosexuality is an abomination.
    It also forbids me to eat with a nonjew.
    Commands that I live seperately from a nonjew. Shalom
         
        07-02-2012, 08:44 AM
      #106
    Weanling
    I just wanna say, that homosexuality is not a sin. It is only a sin according to certain people's own beliefs. Saying that homosexuality is a sin is like saying that sour candy is definitely not sour - what I think is sour may not be to you.

    Just puttin' that out there.

    I personally believe that everyone should have equal rights, no matter what sexuality, age, race, body shape, etc.

    But either way, some Christians think that my best friend is going to hell for being a lesbian, but that's okay because thanks to premarital sex and mixed fabrics, I'm going to be right there with her (not that I personally believe in heaven/hell, being an eclectic pagan)! :)
    Ray MacDonald likes this.
         
        07-02-2012, 11:10 AM
      #107
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by KissTheRing    
    *
    I Proudly escort my gay friend every Sunday into my church- The people there teem with actual HATE- They hate him for who he is- They hate him to the point where he is in tears walking past the judgmental eyes.
    Why in the world would your gay friend want to be subjected to that? There are plenty of churches that would welcome him with open arms. If your friend is going there, is he to try to force his belief system on somebody else?

    There is no way that someone that feels like the target of hate can be in a church to truly worship and connect with the congregational worship.

    Churches actually do have a legal right to decide who can attend their church. It is legally, morally, and ethically a private club that can be and is controlled by its members or larger church governing body. No adult is forced to go to church in the free world. If I don't like the way a particular church acts, I don't go.
    Speed Racer and dbarabians like this.
         
        07-02-2012, 11:40 AM
      #108
    Teen Forum Moderator
    ^

    Yes. While I do not think that a church should encourage homosexuality due to the fact that it is a sin, we should not turn our hate towards them. Our church is southern baptist by definition, and while we will, if asked, tell you that homosexuality is a sin, and show you exactly why and how, we will NOT discriminate against you. My youth pastor has told us time and time again that he welcomes homosexuals with open arms into our group, and we as a youth group body welcome them as well. Our pastor and congregation feel the same way. If we will take in a former drug addict or a teenaged mom, why would we not take in and shelter someone who has become lost?

    Yes, if you were a homosexual and you walked into my church, at some point you would be asked about your beliefs about homosexuality. But we would not make you feel excluded. We would not hate you. :/
         
        07-02-2012, 01:08 PM
      #109
    Trained
    Endiku, it sounds like a church that actually follows the teachings of Christ.
    "Love one another."
         
        07-02-2012, 01:34 PM
      #110
    Weanling
    He comes with me because of his belief in God- He is too scared to walk into a different church without me- Though I would go where ever he would choose to b/c I stand by him no matter what.
    My church is wrong for their actions
         

    Quick Reply
    Please help keep the Horse Forum enjoyable by reporting rude posts.
    Message:
    Options

    Register Now

    In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

    Already have a Horse Forum account?
    Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

    New to the Horse Forum?
    Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.

    User Name:
    Password
    Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
    Password:
    Confirm Password:
    Email Address
    Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
    Email Address:

    Log-in

    Human Verification

    In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.


    Old Thread Warning
    This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

    Thread Tools

    Similar Threads
    Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
    Inmates Rights in Prison? WesternBella General Off Topic Discussion 96 05-17-2012 12:54 AM
    what are my rights? what can I do? moderncowgirl Horse Law 47 02-19-2012 05:20 PM
    My rights? caligirl70 Horse Law 22 07-25-2011 10:22 PM
    Rights to sell? dmj1993 Horse Law 21 09-06-2010 12:50 PM
    Animal Rights Question whitetrashwarmblood General Off Topic Discussion 18 12-06-2008 04:02 PM



    All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:00 PM.


    Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
    Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
    Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0