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    04-15-2012, 02:35 PM
Originally Posted by Elky    
Agreed, it is a huge task to control our southern border, but a task which needs to be fully addressed regardless. Part of addressing it would be to make the USA less desireable. No free education, no free healthcare, no welfare, more pressure, fines and jail time for employers found guilty of hiring illegals and the deporting of illegals when they are caught. That in itself would slow down a lot of our illegal problems.
You're going to have to do alot worse than that to keep people out of the States. Mexicans don't come here for healthcare, education or to go on welfare. They come for some resemblance of a better life from horrible conditions - conditions that we as Americans will never know. They are dirt poor with nothing. When they do make it across the border they are content doing the God awful jobs that we, as Americans, don't want to do. Americans are the ones who don't do the minimum wage jobs but rather, go on welfare. It's not the illegal immigrants.

So no, I don't think that would make a bit of difference. You'd have many more Americans screaming than illegals.
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    04-15-2012, 02:46 PM
They come here for a better life, a life with guarantees of a better life with or without a job. 50 years ago, Americans did those jobs. It was employers in this country that lowered the wage standard and would hire the illegal, creating in time the lazy American.

Our system is broken, and we have a do nothing government to address any of it.
    04-15-2012, 02:57 PM
Originally Posted by Elky    
50 years ago, Americans did those jobs.
IMO, it has always been immigrants who have done these jobs, whether it was yesterday, 50 years ago or 150 years ago. They may not have been illegal, but they were immigrants. Even back then, they did not come for any of the things you listed. They came for freedom and a better life.
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    04-15-2012, 04:21 PM
Elky with 48,000 people murdered thousands more have fled north not only for jobs but for safety.
This country has an interest in the economic and civil unrest in Mexico.
If we do nothing to change the situation then people will continue to flee north for a better life.
You cannot get public assistance if you are not a citizen in this country.
The majority of undocumented workers are law abiding and hardworking.
Unemployment and Social Security are denied them even though they pay into the Social Security acoounts if they receive a paycheck.
The economy of Texas and the USA would collapse if they were deported.

As for the Stand Your Ground Laws if Zimmerman is found guilty or not the law will be changed if only because of political pressure.
Defending your self or your home and family are one thing but chasing someone in the rain and dark makes you the aggressor.
If Zimmerman were a cop he would have been relieved of duty and investigated. Because of this law he was questioned and set free.
The law was used as the reason for this. Right or wrong this gave the appearance of allowing Zimmerman to get off scot free.
Minorities and civil rights organizations then questioned the equality of our legal system. With the USA's history of inequality do you blame them?
    04-15-2012, 04:41 PM
Originally Posted by Elky    
They come here for a better life, a life with guarantees of a better life with or without a job. 50 years ago, Americans did those jobs. It was employers in this country that lowered the wage standard and would hire the illegal, creating in time the lazy American.

Our system is broken, and we have a do nothing government to address any of it.

Employers lowered wages and cut benefits and such, making such jobs less desireable to Americans because they have to compete with all the manufacturers overseas, who make things using labor that works happily for a 4th what a worker asks for here. AND, the stuff they make cheaply , comes here and floods the markets, and consumers want the cheapest they can get, cheaper and cheaper and cheaper, ala Walmart, which makes American manufacturers unable to meet that bottom line pricing. IT's a race to the bottom. The only way farmers can make it is with labor from Mexico. The only way you can get food as cheap as you get it in the super market, is through labor from Mexico.

If we want to sever the use of such cheap labor from Mexcio, be prepared to pay the REAL cost for things made /grown in America.
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    04-15-2012, 05:29 PM
Years ago teens flocked to the fields to make some money. Today, you can't even find ones to put up hay so everyone relies on Mexicans. I'll tell you one thing, though.... they work fast, do a good job, and don't take breaks.
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