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post #21 of 131 Old 01-25-2011, 10:16 PM
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As far as guns going to psychos, I don't think stricter gun laws is going to help. If a psycho wants a gun, laws be ****ed, he's going to get one. How many murders do we know that follow gun laws? He'll get one from the street. Guns are always going to be on the street, no matter what. Heck, getting a gun may be easier illegally than legally? 'Cause we all know illegal is always faster. :P
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post #22 of 131 Old 01-25-2011, 10:17 PM
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yeah. That's my favorite to watch. Best thing to do in that situation is stand perfectly still :)
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Good to know. I work nights in New York City, so that's most likely the type of idiot I will encounter.

You just have to see your distance...you don't have to like it.
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We've got more guns than I can count, but we hunt so most of them are used for killing deer and duck. However, because we live out in the middle of nowhere and we are surrounded by nothing but miles of woods, we keep a gun to where if someone were to try and mess with us we can get to it. There's one hidden in places like the barn, shed, etc.

I don't have a problem with people having guns at all.

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I'm with A knack, if the law is written properly and enforced we should be ok and I might feel better about people carrying weapons.

The problem with enforcing though is that much like an officer not being able to pull over a car without just cause, they won't people able to stop someone and pat them down and question them about carrying a weapon unless they've done somethin wrong, correct?
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post #25 of 131 Old 01-25-2011, 10:21 PM
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Good to know. I work nights in New York City, so that's most likely the type of idiot I will encounter.
I tried shooting like that on my in laws property at a target on a large dirt mound. I never came close to the paper, let alone the target that was printed on the paper from probably 7 yards back maybe.
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I take it you're referring to that butt stupid hold it sideways crap? Yeah, that is embarrassing to watch.
To be honest, when I shoot a rifle or shotgun, it is on a slight angle--tilted inwards....but it isnt for looks...it is just how the rifle/shotgun sits most comfortably on my shoulder and it has never hindered my ability to hit a target accurately.

But that is a rifle and not a hand gun....

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post #27 of 131 Old 01-25-2011, 10:25 PM
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To be honest, when I shoot a rifle or shotgun, it is on a slight angle--tilted inwards....but it isnt for looks...it is just how the rifle/shotgun sits most comfortably on my shoulder and it has never hindered my ability to hit a target accurately.

But that is a rifle and not a hand gun....
That's way Different than doing it with a hand gun with a loose wrist like gangstas do it. I do a slight angle with rifles too.
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First, if you live in NYC (a city with one of the highest murder rates in the country) your government has already decided that your only defense will be standing perfectly still.

Second, there is a widely held belief that converting a semi automatic weapon to a fully automatic weapon is easy and doable for most gun-owners. It is a myth. There are few gunsmiths that could do the conversion and no casual gun owner could. You can get the correct permit and buy a fully-automatic weapon legally. It only takes about $20,000 per gun plus a long and detailed background check. Most gun crimes are committed with cheap low-capacity guns. Not these so-called assault weapons.

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post #29 of 131 Old 01-25-2011, 10:44 PM
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Yuck, I don't live in this crap hole. I just work here. I carry a travel size can of hair spray, a mini air horn and I'm fairly quick with a knee to the nuts. I'm fully aware that I am not afforded the right to defend myself. Ironically 40 miles up the road on Connecticut, I am free to get a permit to carry a concealed weapon. Go figure.

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In America, the laws don't allow one to force mentally ill into treatment without a lot of evidence. The guy who shot Giffords and others in Tucson may have been nuts, but not nuts enough to be committed. I'd support changing the law to increase the chance of stopping him from legally buying a gun - although he could always steal one, or just drive his car into people.

Also, in Arizona, you can carry concealed without a license. Having taken the course, I can't say I learned anything useful from it. I doubt the shooter at the Safeway was worried about violating any CCW laws regardless.

I figure folks have the right to defend themselves, and decide for themselves how much risk they accept before they start carrying weapons. Those inclined to murder aren't going to worry about gun laws, and those not inclined should be able to defend themselves.

Assault weapons banned by the law were simply scary looking. There was nothing in the law based on reality. It was a law to make people feel good, without making them any safer.
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