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post #71 of 92 Old 10-06-2011, 07:15 PM
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Well, I'm sure you needn't worry Spyder. If you ever come to visit the US, we'll make sure to never use our guns to protect you.

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post #72 of 92 Old 10-06-2011, 07:19 PM
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Spyder, I don't really see your point in starting this thread. You have contributed very little to the debate, and what you have said is just plain wrong. The US has violence like every country, and gun control has little to do with it.
You might actually learn something from this article
Can Gun Control Reduce Crime? Part 2

Unless your point is because we like guns, whether we use them or not, makes us violent. I guess then likeing cars would also make us violent. After all, they kill more people than guns.
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Well, I'm sure you needn't worry Spyder. If you ever come to visit the US, we'll make sure to never use our guns to protect you.

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Well that is a relief then.
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I don't know, Spyder. This article is from;
Statistics Canada
Statistics Canada: Canada's national statistical agency / Statistique Canada : Organisme statistique national du Canada

I think you ought to consider a gun. Canada is not as safe as you may think.

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The 2006 rate of violent crime involving the use of firearms in Canada remained stable for the fourth consecutive year, according to a new study examining trends in gun violence.

Canadian police services reported just over 8,100 victims of violent gun crime, ranging from assault to robbery and homicide, accounting for 2.4% of all victims of violence. Handguns made up nearly two-thirds of all firearms used.

Violent crimes were more often committed with other types of weapons than guns. Knives accounted for 6.2% of violent victimizations and clubs or other blunt instruments were used against 3.0% of victims.

Police-reported data showed that among young people, the use of guns in violent crime is increasing. The rate of youth aged 12 to 17 accused of a firearm-related offence has risen in three of the past four years, increasing 32% since 2002. The overall firearm-related crime rates for youth were driven primarily by robberies.

In 2006, 1,287 young people were accused of a violent offence in which a gun was used. They accounted for 2.8% of all youth accused of violence; in contrast, 1.8% of adults accused of a violent offence had used a firearm.

Generally, the highest rates of gun violence in 2006 were found in Canada's largest cities. Vancouver had the highest rate among all census metropolitan areas (CMAs), followed by Winnipeg and Toronto. Among youth, however, the rates of violence involving firearms were highest in Toronto and Saskatoon.

About three-quarters of the total number of violent victimizations involving guns in 2006 were robbery and assault. Although the incidence of attempted murder and homicide was much lower, about one-third of these offences were committed with a firearm.

Adults convicted of a violent gun crime were sentenced, on average, to just over four years in prison, double the typical sentence length of those convicted of the same violent offence where a firearm had not been used.

One-quarter of firearm-related victimizations occur in Toronto

A total of 1,993 people in the Toronto CMA were victims of a violent offence related to guns in 2006, about one-quarter of the national total.

However, in terms of rates which take into account differences in population, Toronto was third highest behind Vancouver and Winnipeg.

In Vancouver, there were 45.3 violent offences involving guns for every 100,000 population, the highest rate in the nation and well above the national average of 27.5. Winnipeg's rate was 43.9 and Toronto's was 40.4.
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there are plenty of people who are not the lease bit interested in violence, of any sort. We are just outshouted and out mediaed (not a real word) by the people who find it a great source of amusement, and money.
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I don't know, Spyder. This article is from;
Statistics Canada
Statistics Canada: Canada's national statistical agency / Statistique Canada : Organisme statistique national du Canada

I think you ought to consider a gun. Canada is not as safe as you may think.
Heck

Never said Canada is safe. In fact with the immigration rate the way it is I feel less safe than I did 10-15-20 years ago.

I just believe that the US can shout louder than most other countries.

And Whisper..your reply is absolutely irrelevant.:roll:
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Lets get back to topic, folks. If this gets personal, we'll close it.

I'm not arguing with you, I'm just explaining why I'm right.

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post #78 of 92 Old 10-06-2011, 09:47 PM
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I like having the right to protect myself. Plain an simple. People would kill people wether they have a gun or not. Crime and violence would still happen wether we had guns or not

I don't need the government to hold my hand. I can protect myself just fine with my gun.
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When guns are not accessible, stabbings and things of that nature go up.

I am kind of confused at the implication that Americans are unphased by killing...
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Heck

Never said Canada is safe. In fact with the immigration rate the way it is I feel less safe than I did 10-15-20 years ago.

I just believe that the US can shout louder than most other countries.

And Whisper..your reply is absolutely irrelevant.:roll:
I see you're not disagreeing with me.
All I can tell is that you started a thread with a statement that you knew no one was going to agree with, stood back and waited for several people to NOT agree with you, for the purpose of popping back up just to say "See, you're all violent people!" Isn't that manipulative of you, but somehow it doesn't surprise me that you would do that.
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