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post #11 of 27 Old 09-02-2012, 11:41 PM
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would you mind reiterating this info on D3 and the other stuff? I did not catch that part originally. Isnt' it bad to take too much Vitamnin D? I mean, isn't it like Vit. E or A in that it can build up to toxic levels? (unlike C which the body excretes all excess in the pee)
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Tiny, here is the scoop. D3 and calcium work together, with phosphorus, to build bones. Yes, you can take too much D3 - but it's turning up as the #1 deficiency in the US so a lot of us have room for some high doses before we have to worry. My doctor recommends that I take 10,000 units per week, so Hag was taking a more generous amount...my doctor also checks my levels at least once a year and more often while I was just starting, to make sure I didn't take too much. Nearly every cell or organ system in our bodies uses D3, with critical organs getting 'first dibs' and other background systems like the immune system and endocrine system coming up later. If we don't have enough D3, we can't heal or fight off illness, etc. because it's all going to keep the heart and other systems working.

As far as cottage cheese (known for its calcium) it also has K2, which is apparently not really a vitamin like the other K. K2 is essential to new bone growth - it helps lay down the latticework upon which baby bone cells attach to heal fractures. Without sufficient K2 the framework doesn't develop optimally and bone growth/healing is slower. K3 is found in naturally fermented foods, of which sauerkraut and cottage cheese are the only ones I can stand to eat. Others are kimchi and other forms of curd cheese. Google K3 or K2 to find out more types of K2-rich foods. My ER doctor recommended cottage cheese to me when I broke my arm last year; it was a bad wrist break and only 6 weeks before my son's wedding; I wanted out of that cast! He said they feed cottage cheese to greyhound dogs with broken bones, because they're so frail and slow to heal that the cottage cheese/K3 helps them heal faster. I was out of the cast in 4 1/2 weeks, and on re-check the ortho said that x-rays showed that the fracture was worse than they had known at the time, but it had also healed much, much faster than he expected, a double surprise since it was a worse fracture.

So, D3 supplements (not regular D - it isn't able to be metabolized as well by the body), cottage cheese, and regular vitamins to get the other necessary minerals...and lab work to recheck the D levels.
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Tiny, You can overdose on Vitamin D, but only if you take mega supplements and it would have to be like 50,000 units daily for weeks and weeks. My internist (my regular doctor) already had me on the 50,000 units twice a week because I have difficulty absorbing some nutrients and vitamins....including Vitamin D and the B vitamins. Additionally, because of my age, I was dealing with osteopenia (precurssor to osteoporosis) but daily walking of our dog and vitamin D had turned that around. If you overdose on D, you'd get nausea and loss of appetite...and you'd stop taking it and it would turn around. If you kept going, you'd end up with extra calcium and kidney damage (kidney stones?) At least that's how I understand it.

LadyTrails can explain about how the cottage cheese, sauerkraut, curd cheese or fermented soy plus the vitamin D3 creates K2 in your body that forms the lacy network that gets filled in by calcium to create bones. It worked for her and it worked for me. My Doctor hadn't heard of it, but he's a believer now!

ETA: See...I knew LadyTrails could do it better than I could. All I know is I'm living proof!
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post #14 of 27 Old 09-03-2012, 12:26 AM
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HagOnNag - so glad to hear you are better!!!!! Hope you are riding soon and find that perfect quiet boy you are looking for. I like my nice calm boy!!!

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HagOnNag, glad your recovery was so fast.
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Great update so glad to hear that you are getting better.
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I have a lesson scheduled for Saturday to determine where I stand mentally....Can I get on and ride without being frozen by fear?
I'll be on a nice QH/TWH cross and in a safe arena. If I have problems there, I'll know what I'm up against. I'm not anticipating any, but if I'm going to freak out, I'd rather do it there than on the trail. And my husband absolutely refuses to go look for horses until he knows how I'm doing.

The hospital bill came today. Thank God for insurance. Before the insurance, it was over $55,000 for 9 days in the hospital and I DIDN"T HAVE ANY SURGERY! How do people without insurance survive??? It's absolutely mind-boggling. We'll be ok, but it's amazing how expensive medical care is.

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So glad you are well on the road to recovery HagonNag.

Hoping your ride on Sat goes smoothly, and you do well.
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Hooray!! Good to hear, HagonNag. And can't wait to hear your adventures as you look to find a nice, quiet horse
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So glad to hear you are doing good Pat! Totally get the hospital bill thing, thank goodness for insurance. My bill for my daughter's birth was 42k before insurance, DH jokingly says if we wouldn't have had insurance we would have had her repo'd lol!

Good luck with your lesson Saturday. I'll be rooting you on in thought!
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