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    12-14-2011, 09:13 PM
Originally Posted by Joe4d    
actually vacines are different. WHile getting into "Like Treats Like" Vaccines don't treat anything. They prevent a future disease.
Homeopathy is supposedly treating something current.
Actually it isnt really the chemical doing the treatment. It is diluted to the point of almost non present. The "Spirit" soul, or energy of the chemical is imprinted on the carrier. This energy mirror image is remembered by the water (evidently water remembers things, who knew )used to dilute the compound and (seriously I'm not making this up) this mirror image when ingested cancels out the affliction.
This is starting to sound like a South Park episode on scientology.
Now I know man doesnt know everything. We will constantly come up with new procedures but this one has never been shown to do anything in any kinda of trial or study.
Wow, that does sound kinda wild! What's your source? Sounds like the new agey water craze stuff. Anyway, the text I referred to earlier on this thread is THE SCIENCE OF HOMEOPATHY by George Vithoulkas (1980). I bought the book way back then because I was intrigued but haven't given it much thought since then.

As for vaccines, they work by stimulating the immune system to produce antibodies against a pathogen. A very small dose of the pathogen, live or killed, is used to stimulate the antibody reaction. After antibody production, the body then has defense against the pathogen when exposed to it. Think of the antibodies as soldiers to fight off the pathogen when it presents itself. Vaccines are to prevent disease caused by pathogens such as bacteria and viruses, although vacccines for viruses are not always dependable because of the high rate of mutation of viruses.

The theory behind homeopathy is that the entire body system is sick, and then more susceptible to disease. The "remedies" are used to stimulate the body to strengthen itself against the disease by functioning at an "energy level" more essential (basic) than cellular or molecular. The disease therefore is worsened for a period of time while the body begins to heal. Healing involves healing the entire body system, rather than treating symptoms which is typical of allopathic medicine.

If anyone is still following this thread, there are much better descriptions out there than what I can give, but just wanted to at least get back with the book title for anyone who is interested.
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    12-15-2011, 06:56 AM
Thanks outnabout...

Well, the whole reason I started this thread is because currently we have started homeopathic treatment for my daughter who has vitiligo. She is only 9 years old so she doesn't exactly understand the 'science' of homeopathy, and all the info she receives about it is from my (positive) influence.

I am very open-minded about it. I've done and am still doing research. My mother was 'cured' from it. 20 years ago she developed lupus erythematosus and nothing prescribed from her medical doctor was clearing it up, but within 6 months of starting homeopathy she was cured, and it has never returned. My grandad has also been cured from many skin disorders using it. The practitioner I'm currently using from the UK (who cured my mum and grandad) does not only prescribe the pills, but there is also alot of nutritional guidance that she advises on aswell, so to me, it seems like there could be something there... whether it is just a placebo or not... if homeopathy is the stimulus needed to cure something - I'm all for it.
I'm currently keeping a photo progress report on my daughters skin, so watch this space.
    12-15-2011, 06:58 AM
I'm surprised about some of the responses- its a BIG thing out here, go to any chemist and they'll offer your general stuff and homeopathic as an alternative.

Confiscius, can I ask what your daughter is on?
    12-15-2011, 07:52 AM
Hiya. So far she has only taken 5 single pills one month ago. I'm not actually sure of the exact name of what they were (sounds professionally great doesn't it LOL) - my mum knows what they were. My mum is dealing first hand with the practitioner and we are sending information via phone and internet on the condition of the vitiligo for the doctor, and the doctor gives the info and pills to my mum who then sends/posts it to me. (I live abroad - not in the UK) The 5 pills were just sent to me in a small plastic slip.

She told us after one month to report back, so this week as far as I am aware, she will be prescribing the homeopathic pills necessary to take continuously. I do not know yet what they will be, but I will finding out this week.

The nutritional guidance given (based on my daughters medical health, blood reports, and case report detailing her personality) is as follows:

To drink 5 drops of iodine once a day in water
No bananas
No product to be consumed whatsoever that is derived from a cow. Ie; no milk, yogurt, cheese, chocolate, gelatine etc.
Not to drink water that has been kept in a plastic bottle all day long.
Preferably not to eat food from metal tins.

But she is to rub live yoghurt mixed with honey, olive oil, 2 drops of iodine into her skin at least once a day.

And these below are what I am doing based on my research from the internet (which has been confirmed ok to from the homeopathic doctor)

She also drinks water from a copper vase.
She is to eat as many figs as possible.
We are also rubbing in an organic oil that we purchased online from australia.
We also are rubbing on a mixture of red clay soil (which is supposed to contain copper) mixed with ginger juice every day.

So yeah, as you can see, I'm pretty obsessed with trying as many ideas as possible. Vitiligo is a disorder that is only a cosmetic issue (apart from possible sun damage) which becomes potentially psychologically destructive. Look at Michael Jackson. I believe 100% he had vitiligo. Luckily my daughter has fairer skin, so it isn't as noticeable as a black person's skin, but it's still noticeable, especially as we live in a Mediterranean country where we tan easily.

When I find out the name of the pills, I'll post it here. They'll probably arrive after xmas though.
    12-15-2011, 08:00 AM
I can pretty much understand that you want to give everything a go! It may not be noticable, put in today's society, especially at school she doesn't want to be made aware of it by other horrid grotty kids! This comes from myself who had excema all over my face, elbow joints and behind my knees. Kids can be horrid.

I don't know if you get it where you are, and I can't remember the exact programme, it may be on youtube, but they had a health food hospital programme on TV, people with disorders from chronic tiredness, to skin disorders, and alopecia. I'll have a dig and find out the name, you may be able to contact them, I think you can... might be able to give you some advice.. it was brilliant! Staying away from some foods and drinks, and eating a load of others and these people were pretty much there!!
    12-15-2011, 09:40 AM
Originally Posted by DuffyDuck    
I'm surprised about some of the responses- its a BIG thing out here, go to any chemist and they'll offer your general stuff and homeopathic as an alternative.

Confiscius, can I ask what your daughter is on?
Lucky you... here in the U.S. The American Medical Association and pharmaceutical industry rule. It's all about big money. Of course, if I need an appendectomy, I will go to a general surgeon M.D. But it would be nice to have the option to obtain homeopathic remedies for other conditions when it is more practical than spending tons of money on allopathic medicine with toxic side effects. In my part of the country, even physicians with D.O. Credentials are mocked. I lived in France for a while and always used homeopathic remedies obtained from the pharmacy.
    12-15-2011, 12:19 PM
Duffy - is the programme Dr. Oz? My friend here swears by his tv programme. (I think she secretly fancies him! Lololololol He's Turkish aswell!)
    12-15-2011, 12:21 PM
The Dr. Oz Show .......?
    12-20-2011, 03:25 PM
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I've tried some substances that come from nature and haven't (at least fully) proven scientifically but I don't know if that can be called homeopathy since what I've gotten, those substances aren't meant for 'holistic well-being'..?

For exaple when I feel like having cold, I use raw garlic. I searched about garlic and cold on web and found a study which pointed out that people who have garlic regularly have less colds than ones who don't have it. On the other hand it was mentioned to be too minor study to be reliable enough and I cannot confirm the source of it. Anyways, I managed to go through the cold wawe in this autumn without getting actually sick...

I've also tried valerian few times as aid while trying to fall asleep. Didn't work with me.

I personally have nothing against trying homeopathy or natural remedies unless they've proven some way harmful. I still think that you shouldn't neglect proper, scientific based examination and listen doctors as to treatment options. Even sure it's your body and it's up to you what you want to do with it, especially if you're adult and responsible of yourself.
    12-21-2011, 12:33 AM
I've used homeopathy for many years with great success in treating serious, chronic problems like chronic insomnia and the disabling results of two head injuries and also for acute problems like bronchitis, sore throats and poison ivy. I've also used it for nerve damage from injuries and to prevent swelling from dental work. I've used homeopathy (Influenzinum 9c) to prevent the flu for 12 years and so far have not had even a hint of a flu symptom.

I've been so satisfied with what homeopathy has done and continues to do for me that it is my primary form of medicine.

I use it with the animals also with great success for the things a lay person can treat (with a little knowledge) like mammary infections, flea bites, infected paws and boils.

Homeopathy is used by more than 200 million people around the world, has a laudable safety record and is backed by volumes of documented clinical evidence along with 100's of high quality studies showing it produces significant and sometimes substantial health benefits.

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