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post #11 of 36 Old 09-03-2013, 12:53 PM
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Nope, not saying we're superior, just saying we're not in the truest sense animals. Whether that was by accident or design, does it actually matter? The fact is that we do have major differences that set us apart.

Yes, animals do indeed teach their young, but how many nurture and house their young until their 18th year or even longer? How many rely solely on their wits and not instinct? None, other than homo sapiens.

I believe in evolution, but I also believe in intelligent design. The two are not mutually exclusive.
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post #12 of 36 Old 09-03-2013, 01:35 PM
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I see us more as insects... But that would be an insult to them.
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Well, we can definitely be classified as parasites, but insects? Not so much.
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Of course we are animals, why wouldn't we be classified as such?

What separates us most of all, imo, is our vocal cords and opposing thumb which allows for a wide range of communication, and especially communication of concepts and the abstract. I have no reason to believe other higher order mammals or birds are unintelligent.
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post #15 of 36 Old 09-03-2013, 10:26 PM
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I believe what sets people apart from animals is their capacity for altruism (although it is rarely expressed these days), but if you believe Freud all behavior is self serving to some extent. If that's the case then we are all animals.

So in lies the madness, the pursuit of the impossible in the face of the complete assurance that you will fail, and yet still you chase.
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post #16 of 36 Old 09-04-2013, 12:44 AM Thread Starter
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I think some other animals also care for others, flytobecat. Look at many wild animals - chimpanzees share with others in their groups, dolphins and other animals adopting orphaned young of their species, animals rescuing others from predators, for example.

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I think we are definitely animals.
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post #18 of 36 Old 09-04-2013, 01:46 AM
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We are animals, no doubt about it. What interests me is why did we evolve in the way we did. By that I mean:

-A brain with the capability to learn that it has.

-The vocal cords we have that allowed us to develop complicated language.

-Opposable thumbs that allowed us to develop written language and use tools.

Without the combination of these abilities we wouldn't be what we are.
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post #19 of 36 Old 09-04-2013, 03:06 AM Thread Starter
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^ very true, Darrin.

In fact, just yesterday in class we learnt why humans have such long childhoods - it's because they have so much to learn that it takes them so long.

I wonder why it was us, and ONLY us, that evolved to be so different to the rest though.

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Like I said, ^, I have no reason to believe higher order mammals and birds are not intelligent.

I think an important part of learning is to be able to distinguish between theory and fact. Parrots, for example, are highly intelligent. They do not have long childhoods, nor do they have large brains.

The ability to communicate complex thought, IMO, is why we evolved the "way we did". This allows technology to be "communicated". The tech we have today is not the result of the "human species", it is the result of a tiny, tiny percentage of the "human species"...geniuses over a span of tens of thousands of years. It would be insane to believe other species do not have the same percentage per capita of geniuses. How would they capitalize on that in anything but a localized area (which they do), though? And, IMO, there is no emotion that humans have a "monopoly" on.

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