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post #1 of 12 Old 11-07-2008, 10:52 PM Thread Starter
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HYPP..nope just a LOT of BULL

A SUPER bull that is.

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post #2 of 12 Old 11-07-2008, 11:16 PM
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Ew. I can honestly say that actually turned me off meat more.... poor bull couldn't even hold his head up right!
Makes me love my Alberta Beef even more :)

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post #3 of 12 Old 11-08-2008, 05:58 AM
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Nice looking bulls!

But it is too much, IMHO. It is worthless for dairy ... but I can understand beefers. The more muscular they are, the more meat. The meat part is the muscle. This guy is just the 'weight lifter " type of bull. The cows will find him sexy enough.

Bulls don't have a high headset. Almost every action is lower. Their necks are short ( if not actually stubby to our horse-neck eyes) and very muscular. They should look like a western pleasure pony when relaxed - head about level with wither. They lower it when threatened/threatening, or feeding. the only time ya see it raised is when he rests his head on Hit Momma's rump for a second or two before mounting.

Those are well handled, well "satisified" happy bulls. Our bulls would literally smash and destroy a pair of puny humans in their personal space like that.

I do wonder why they bred that cow in a headlock. My speakers were flamed, so I can't hear what was being said .... if it's the breed I think - here is a pic of one getting ready for a show .....his head set is as high as it is ever gonna get . He is in show stance position.
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They never said anything about the headlock but in my unprofessional opinion it is so that the animals don't move too much because they are collecting the semen for AI. They did say that none of those "double muscle" cattle are bred naturally. I imagine if the cow is restrained then she's not moving around and it makes it easier/safer to collect.

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post #5 of 12 Old 11-08-2008, 10:32 AM
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I'm glad I get our beef from a local grass fed beef guy.

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post #6 of 12 Old 11-08-2008, 10:39 AM
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what's wrong with these bulls and certainly what is wrong with people who are obsess with making bulls super bulls

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post #7 of 12 Old 11-08-2008, 10:52 AM
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Double muscled cattle are one of those thing most if not all cattleman that I have meet would hate. A cow like that can't have a calf thought natural methods, they have to preform a ceasera section (sp) to delieve the calf and and that means a call to the vet. And, that cuts profits.These animals also have more health problem than other cattle. Breeds were double muscling is common are not common cattle breeds for any breeder. They are used in Europe but not here in America, we breed for efficancy under min. management, how much can the cow do on her own.

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Originally Posted by Kentucky View Post
A cow like that can't have a calf thought natural methods, they have to preform a ceasera section (sp) to delieve the calf and and that means a call to the vet.
And this is what the calf would look like.

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Yikes...Not my cup of tea.

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post #10 of 12 Old 11-08-2008, 11:30 AM
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That calf ... now THAT is nasty.

Yep, Americans want beefers that are relatively low maintenance.

You know, in all the years I have been in the dairy biz, I have never seen a caesarian operation on a dairy moo. Interesting.

Spyder, how old is that bull calf you have pictured ? What breed is it supposed to be? Now that is soooooooooo wrong looking.

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