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    11-04-2012, 10:16 AM
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I used to have trouble getting to sleep as well and spent many a long night of sleeplessness only to be exhausted the next day. This is what I did for myself that got me over it:

1. Most important one - Figuring out what I really stressed out or anxious about; understanding what I could or couldn't do about it; then letting it go at bed time (I don't know about you but I'm amazed at how much the brain just keeps spinning around on its own; I had to work at not thinking so much).

2. No napping - I think someone else mentioned that one as well.

3. If you're working, try to keep to your same waking/sleeping time when you're on vacation and days off.

4. (This one's pretty important too) Do some quiet physical exercise (as in yoga) and believe it or not some mental exercise to relax your body at sleep time. This relates to point one as well - I'm not a professional but I believe that the brain, when you're stressing about something, sets up the tension in the body. I really noticed sleep coming easily to me once I got my body relaxed.

Good luck.
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    11-04-2012, 11:35 AM
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Hallelujah I finally mastered multiquote I think. Once again I went to bed at 4am and ended up waking up at 6am and laying there praying I would fall back to sleep.

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Originally Posted by riccil0ve    
I deeply empathize. I take a Benadryl almost every night. I can not take it but I won't sleep. One pill is still enough to allow me to sleep all night. If it ever stops working, I'll try something different as opposed to upping dosage. Melatonin worked for awhile, but stopped eventually.

One thing I will bring up is birth control. I tried a certain pill that not only made me batpoop crazy, but kept me up for two weeks straight. I had gotten my insomnia under control pretty well before then, for a few years, but the month on that pill was enough to shift everything. A year later, I still can't sleep [well] on my own.

Good luck. Not sleeping is terrible. I completely understand the neurosis it causes. *hugs*

ETA: Case in point, it's midnight, I did not take a Benadryl, and I am still awake. I usually take it around 830 or 9, so I can wake up at 6 without feeling groggy.
Benedryl has never made me sleepy. I used to take it for my allergies not as a sleep aid. I've never been on BC either so I don't think it's something messing with me in that way. I just can't turn my brain off =(

I hate not being able to sleep it's one of the worst feelings out there.

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Originally Posted by AlexS    
I can so relate, I am exactly the same as you are. It's 3.20 am here and I am wide awake as I am every night. I rarely go to bed before 4am, have to be up at 6am with the kids, and then usually sleep again for a few hours.

I am sick of my life being upside down, and not able to participate in normal morning life.

For me, it used to be that my mind wouldn't shut off. But it's been going on for so long now (years) that I think my body clock has just adjusted to my nocturnal life.

I smoke, and at times of stress, I drink too much so I will not take a sleep aid. I know I have the personality type that would get addicted very easily.


Something that helps from time to time, but it's rough, is if I force myself to stay awake all through to the next night. That day is hell, but I do go to sleep at a normal time the next night, as I am totally exhausted at that point. It doesn't work for me for more than 2 nights though.

I send myself insane if I just lay in bed, so I do better when I am reading or on the computer - but honestly I have not found much that changes anything.

Sorry that I am of no help to you, but I do know exactly how you are feeling.
I have tried that also. That was rough I did that for a week straight pretty much only sleeping every other night because that's how it worked out.

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Originally Posted by AlexS    
Apologies for the double post, I don't think I will have time to edit my previous one to add this.


My sleep issues started the same way that yours did as my brain would not shut off, it's since turned into a habit. That was stress related for me.

Is it possible that it's stress or possibly depression related for you? If so, the lack of sleep is a symptom and not the problem.
It very well might be stress related though I don't know what I'm stressing about haha. I like to think I'm taking everything being thrown at me in stride and calmly but maybe my subconcious is doing differently. The worst part is the things I could be stressing about are not what my brain keeps thinking about every night. It just keeps thinking random thoughts like last night laying in bed the most common thought was "I wonder what kind of recipes I could use apples in?" It's weird you would think I'd be thinking about what's going on between my parents and my sister right now. Maybe my subconcious is doing that without me realizing it. Is that even possible?

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Originally Posted by Samstead    
I get this, it sucks. I often ,onto my floor if I can't sleep, works like a charm. My mom gave me the ylangylang sleep spray that you spray on your pillow, which helped a bit and is totally not addictive and smells nice. Keep drinking the tea and o
Do something quiet (read, watch TV, calming things) for an hour or so until you go to bed and don't wash your face of brush your test right before bed do that before you start relaxing.
I've never tried sleeping on the floor. I've also never heard of that spray I'll have to look it up. I've heard of lavender oil though it's supposed to soothe and relax you. Today I was planning on getting some lavender oil and having a lavender bubble bath tonight with sleepy time tea and a bit of lavender oil on my pillow to see if it helps. It can't hurt haha

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Originally Posted by Speed Racer    
Dramamine, Benadryl, or any type of melatonin can help you get to sleep. They're all OTC and nonhabit forming. Heck a slug of Nyquil works too, but I only take that when I'm sick.
Oh yeah Nyquil is the good stuff but like you I limit that to when I am sick. I do the whole Nyquil each night Dayquil each day regime. I'm thinking of trying lavender oil tonight to help relax me and I might just pick up some Melatonin while I'm out. It can't hurt worst thing that can happen is I'm up again like usual.

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Originally Posted by CLaPorte432    
Do you work out? Maybe adding a good run into your day will relieve some of your stress/anxiety.

Do you nap during the day? For awhile I was sleeping for an hour after work. Waking up at 2:45am, 4am-4pm workday, then 5pm-6pm "rest period". I could not go to sleep when bedtime came. So I cut out naps. It was hard at first because my body was so used to them...
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I do work out I walk on the treadmill about 3 times a day for 45 mins each. Sometimes I add some jogging in. I've been on nutrisystem for hmm going on my third month now so that's how long I've been doing that. (side note:lost 18lbs yay!) Maybe instead of the treadmill I could try taking my walks/jogging outside. The only problem is it's cold and I'm deathly afraid of walking up the side of my road it's super busy and everyone flies.

I don't take naps for that exact reason. I know if I nap during the day that there will be no chance of me getting to sleep that night. It stinks because I know so many people who can nap during the day and still go to bed at 9pm. Lucky lucky people.

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Originally Posted by gunslinger    
Take a long walk just before dark. Work your body.....you need to be tired to sleep well.
I've done walks around my yard. Not fond of the street I live on it's very busy and people fly. =/

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Originally Posted by Chevaux    
I used to have trouble getting to sleep as well and spent many a long night of sleeplessness only to be exhausted the next day. This is what I did for myself that got me over it:

1. Most important one - Figuring out what I really stressed out or anxious about; understanding what I could or couldn't do about it; then letting it go at bed time (I don't know about you but I'm amazed at how much the brain just keeps spinning around on its own; I had to work at not thinking so much).

2. No napping - I think someone else mentioned that one as well.

3. If you're working, try to keep to your same waking/sleeping time when you're on vacation and days off.

4. (This one's pretty important too) Do some quiet physical exercise (as in yoga) and believe it or not some mental exercise to relax your body at sleep time. This relates to point one as well - I'm not a professional but I believe that the brain, when you're stressing about something, sets up the tension in the body. I really noticed sleep coming easily to me once I got my body relaxed.

Good luck.
I wish I could figure out what was stressing me out, I really do so I could address it and finally get some sleep haha. And you're completely right it is amazing how much the brain keeps going(especially when you're trying to shut it off haha) My brain thinks about the dumbest stuff at bedtime though. It's like I lose all control of it ~shrugs~ I have tried willing the thoughts away or even writing them down so that I don't have to "worry" about remembering them hoping that then they'll be off my mind and I could sleep.

Nope no naps.

I try to keep my schedule as smooth and the same as possible (sleep is just not cooperating) I start the process of trying to sleep(relaxing calming down getting comfy) at 9 and I wake up by 7am every day regardless if I got sleep the night before or not.

I've never thought of doing yoga. I've heard it's great for your core muscles(?) I always hear how people are so relaxed while and after they do it. I might pick up a yoga dvd when I go on an adventure finding possible sleep aids today so far on my list lavender oil, oatmeal bath soap, Melatonin, yoga dvd, and more sleepy time tea. All things rumored ot help with sleep.

Thanks for the support guys it's good to know I'm not alone with this terrible curse. And thank you for the ideas. Keep them coming I need back up plans in case they don't work.
     
    11-04-2012, 01:16 PM
  #13
Green Broke
Not sleeping is getting to be a major problem for so many of us. I have had the problem for a few years now. Any night that I sleep for longer than 4 hours is a great night. I've tried teas, aroma therapy, melatonin, OTC sleep aids-nothing has helped consistently. My brain won't turn off -yes-I have a lot of stress, but like you, there are some pretty silly things running around in my head. Keep trying, being sleep deprived really sucks & takes a big toll on the body. Hope something brings relief!
     
    11-04-2012, 01:41 PM
  #14
Green Broke
I know if my moms boyfriend eats chocolate or cookies/ brownies it knocks him out. Are you one that caffeine / sweet stuff makes hyper if not that might help you. I have trouble sleeping as well some nights worse than others but I can't sleep without music or something in the background. Stretches amd yoga type stuff sometimes helps me relax enough to sleep well or reading.
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    11-04-2012, 04:17 PM
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Green Broke
I'm not talking about walks around your yard....walk at least 3 miles or more.
     
    11-04-2012, 06:23 PM
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Okay so tonight I'm pretty much pulling out all the stops I want to sleep! I've got lavender bubble bath, lavender bath fizzies, oatmeal and goats milk soap for a relaxing bath.

I also picked up some Melatonin to try. And my Celestial Sleepy Time Tea. This is it if anyone is interested.


And I got some lavender oil and found a recipe that allows you to spray it on your pillow, sheets, blankets, what have you. It's really simple.
It's this one if anyone is interested
Lavender Pillow Mist Recipe - Food.com - 112627


The only thing I wasn't able to get was a yoga DVD. Apparently tis the season to do yoga because the three stores I went to didn't have any dvds. =P Who knew it was that popular! I didn't.

I'm praying tonight I finally get some restfull sleep. It's 6:30 I plan on hitting the hay at 9. I have a trail ride tomorrow so I need to be rested or I'll be falling asleep on my horse haha.
     
    11-05-2012, 10:28 AM
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So Happy!! I had some success! My plan was to go to sleep at 9pm but that turned into 11pm. I actually got some sleep though! I feel so rested for once. I got a grand total of 8hours!

What I did:
The lavender bath with lavender candles
Took 3mg of Melatonin(the recommended dose on the bottle)
Sprayed my bedsheets and pillow with the lavender spray
Got into bed with my sleepy time tea and relaxed watching a movie
Once it was over I turne dout the light and turned on a "thunderstorm sounds" CD and I was out like that ~snaps fingers~

I am so happy to have found something that will hopefully work in the long run. Can't wait to try it again tonight!
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    11-05-2012, 12:21 PM
  #18
Green Broke
Good deal! Hope you continue to have a good nights' sleep! ( I got 6 hours last night).
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    11-06-2012, 12:41 PM
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Good news! I hope that continues to work for you.

One thing that I've noticed is the more you try to fall asleep the less it happens.

Licorice root, Chamomile, Passion flower, Lavender, St Johns wart & Valerian are all things that can help manage stress and or be used as sleep aids.

I would look to your diet for the answer. If the obvious are ruled out, you are not on medications with side effects, you've stopped any caffeine intake by late afternoon, you aren't intaking a sugar over load etc... then a deficiency is a likely culprit.

Magnesium deficiency can case insomnia. Any of your calcium, magnesium, potassium and sodium upsets will cause various nervous system effects.

Allergies or food intolerances can cause insomnia. If you eat a lot of pasta, breads, baked goods then your body may need a break from gluten. Gluten causes a whole hoast of problems for people. The Doctors have made it look like you either have Celiac or you don't but such is not the case. There are many other grains to look into but we almost constantly use wheat.

Low levels of melatonin and serotonin. Melatonin will work if that is what you need, it wont work if your body doesn't need it.

Low iron levels will cause insomnia.

Adrenal fatigue will cause insomnia.

If all else a turkey dinner seems to work and you're in luck, that's coming up!
     
    11-06-2012, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by New_image    
Good news! I hope that continues to work for you.

One thing that I've noticed is the more you try to fall asleep the less it happens.

Licorice root, Chamomile, Passion flower, Lavender, St Johns wart & Valerian are all things that can help manage stress and or be used as sleep aids.

I would look to your diet for the answer. If the obvious are ruled out, you are not on medications with side effects, you've stopped any caffeine intake by late afternoon, you aren't intaking a sugar over load etc... then a deficiency is a likely culprit.

Magnesium deficiency can case insomnia. Any of your calcium, magnesium, potassium and sodium upsets will cause various nervous system effects.

Allergies or food intolerances can cause insomnia. If you eat a lot of pasta, breads, baked goods then your body may need a break from gluten. Gluten causes a whole hoast of problems for people. The Doctors have made it look like you either have Celiac or you don't but such is not the case. There are many other grains to look into but we almost constantly use wheat.

Low levels of melatonin and serotonin. Melatonin will work if that is what you need, it wont work if your body doesn't need it.

Low iron levels will cause insomnia.

Adrenal fatigue will cause insomnia.

If all else a turkey dinner seems to work and you're in luck, that's coming up!
Wow thanks for all that! I didn't know so many things could cause insomnia.

Cool there are more things to possibly help if I need them. Although I did try chamomile tea and it's not my cup of tea(pun intended haha)

As for diet I have been on Nutrisystem for a few months now(with all the add ins like salad, milk, cheese, fruits, veggies, etc) and I don't drink anything caffenated really other than coffee and tea and they're limited to before 12pm. And I'm not on any medications I do however take Vitamin C and Biotin. And now I'm taking the Melatonin before bed.


As far as sleep I did my little ritual again last night and was able to get another full 8hrs and woke up feeling rested =) I could definitely get used to this haha. I don't know if it's the Melatonin, my tea, or the lavender but it works haha.
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