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post #31 of 51 Old 07-03-2011, 10:04 AM
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i don't think my mom will go for a trainer, and i have to use my money for my 3 horses,
LilKitty, have you even bothered to look into what is in your area, or the cost of the trainers?

Might be worth doing before you just dismiss the idea out of hand.

The stockdog trainer I used to work with was $15 dollars for a group lesson (only $10, actually, if you did only a single run on the sheep with your dog, and then an additional $5 for a second run) and $30 dollars for a single private lesson. It's not like we are talking about several hundred bucks here or something. Even if you could only arrange a single private lesson with a trainer, one could give you some tips and teach you proper handling techniques and proper forms of discipline to continue to work with Claire at home.

I can't imagine a difference of $30 dollars or so means taking food out of your horses mouths. If it does, there is obviously a much bigger issue here.


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post #32 of 51 Old 07-03-2011, 10:28 AM
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Do you have any friends/neighbors with a bold rooster? At my papa's barn there's this rogue rooster that doesn't take crap from any of the dogs. If they get within a couple feet he'll chase the dogs down. They know not to mess with him, so they stay away from the rooster AND all chickens in general.

lol I know that's a kind of odd solution but it's a lesson your pup will never forget if the chicken/rooster was to turn on him.
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post #33 of 51 Old 07-03-2011, 10:46 AM
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Just read through this. I think Indy gave great advice from someone well versed in the area you need input from.

My dad trains dogs -upland bird, water retrievers & utility dogs. My mom keeps 15 laying hens free range. His Drathaar (though not a herding breed) has learned to put them in their roost at night. I find it amusing the bird dog is a chicken herder. I jokingly tell my dad that his dog is going to try & make friends with the pheasants & quail when hunting now :) Think we may have to teach my Kurzhaar to bring the horses up from pasture next lol!
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post #34 of 51 Old 07-03-2011, 11:27 AM
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Think we may have to teach my Kurzhaar to bring the horses up from pasture next lol!
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LOL That would be great! Why not? Kurzhaars/GSPs are very smart, athletic dogs - he would certainly be up for it!


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LOL That would be great! Why not? Kurzhaars/GSPs are very smart, athletic dogs - he would certainly be up for it!
Thanks Indy! I think he'd love it. I've had several akc GSP's but Dell is the first I've had imported from Germany. Man does he have some stamina! Adding a couple of pics, well, just because I love him

Dell Vom Gansehimmel aka "Smelly Delly"
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Just as he was about to pick up a pheasant.
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Random question, but...

It'sd my understanding that, (like so many other breeds) the GSPs and the Kurzhaars have gone in different directions with purpose, do you notice a big difference with Dell as opposed to the GSPs you have had in the past?


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He is bigger (not in hunting shape he's about 85 lbs, hunting season about 75) He's much more relaxed in general than the gsp's I've owned. He seems to have a bit keener nose (he is birdy as all get out) and has a massive heart girth. He can literally run alongside me on the 4-wheeler at 20mph for an hour and not be the least tired. He LOVES water work & bails in like a big air dock dog. I couldn't get my female gsp in the water unless she fell out of the boat lol! In general personality wise he is very similar, he's a big lover! I've found the biggest difference is that he seems a bit more focused\intelligent\trainable.
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Awesome, thanks for the info! He sounds like a fun dog!


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post #39 of 51 Old 07-03-2011, 12:38 PM
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Alex, I've been training dogs professionally for the last decade (probably more at this point). I've trained at least 500 dogs myself, more if you count group classes.

I have herding dogs (Aussies and Collies) and have titled them as well as other breeds up to the CDX level. Working on Utility now, aiming for an OTCH with both the Aussies before I'm 80, LOL.

And just because I hate it when trainers go on about their herding dogs (I'm so guilty, haha) I have to say I've gotten a CD on a borzoi too, those hounds can rock it just as much as any BC! (they just rock it slower...)

Anyway, lilkitty, I understand not having the money for a trainer, but I will second the suggestion to look at a group class instead of private sessions or board & train. I may know a few places in NC that have reasonably priced classes if you let me know what area you're in.
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post #40 of 51 Old 07-03-2011, 02:00 PM
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I think Indy's advice is probably your best bet. Train the dog to herd chickens and behave appropriately around them. I doubt though if you will ever be able to leave your dog unsupervised with the chickens.
I had a couple dogs as a kid that killed chickens. We got a puppy from a friend. He taught our 5 year old German Shepherd to kill chickens. The shepherd had never chased anything on our farm until then.
We were never able to totally work the dogs out of that behavior. They would be fine if you were watching, but as soon as your back was turned the dogs would go after the hens. We ended up keeping the dogs in kennels. They were only let out if someone was watching them.

So in lies the madness, the pursuit of the impossible in the face of the complete assurance that you will fail, and yet still you chase.

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