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post #91 of 97 Old 05-16-2012, 02:34 PM
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Horse poor depression affects not only your mood how your brain functions. There are chemicals that your brain releases that help your brain to function normally. These chemicals are important.
The longer one is depressed the less the chemicals are released.
They are like electric currents. The reduction in chemicals makes the depression worse. It is a cycle that if not interuppted will prolong the depression. Medication is a tool in the treatment plan.
Anti depressants help restart the brains normal function. They do not work overnight but can help reduce the affects of depression. The patient becomes more receptive to treatment. They do not cure depression they allow us to think rationally and improve our moods.
Most people will only need them for a short time. Some because of other factors will need them for the rest of their lives.
That is a very simple definition that I use when explaining the physical aspects of depression. I do it a lot better vocally.
Please do not discount these drugs they have helped millions overcome depression and resume full lives. Shalom
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I think that's what that TV program "Pitbulls and Parolees" is based upon too, although I don't know how much is TV hype.

Northwesten, you have it a little bit backwards. It is the doctors to blame - not the drug companies. Tranqs are not over the counter, but prescription drugs. Doctors overprescribe them horribly. I have been given prescriptions for Zoloft and Prozac many times and have never taken one. When I get depressed or stressed out I turn to diet and exercise and can accomplish the same thing as taking drugs.

Although I don't take them (and wouldn't), I don't condemn tranqs - they are useful for short term use to help people cope, The problem is doctors permit people to be on their happy pills for years instead of months, so they become mentally dependent upon them. You can become mentally dependent on anything...
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I think that's what that TV program "Pitbulls and Parolees" is based upon too, although I don't know how much is TV hype.

Northwesten, you have it a little bit backwards. It is the doctors to blame - not the drug companies. Tranqs are not over the counter, but prescription drugs. Doctors overprescribe them horribly. I have been given prescriptions for Zoloft and Prozac many times and have never taken one. When I get depressed or stressed out I turn to diet and exercise and can accomplish the same thing as taking drugs.

Although I don't take them (and wouldn't), I don't condemn tranqs - they are useful for short term use to help people cope, The problem is doctors permit people to be on their happy pills for years instead of months, so they become mentally dependent upon them. You can become mentally dependent on anything...
yes is true! then I think it can be hand to hand then really. Drug company's + doctors is a bad mixes when folks don't do anything in their life. My view is drug company's shouldn't advertise thing that's not over the counter.

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BTW I didn't catch the name who posted how depression works and I know how they work. Even so the basic steps to get out of it is life style not pills.

I going to put this out there but last 2 years my wife thought I needed to see a doctor about depression. I was very very unhappy how thing been going. I told her I not suffering from depression I suffering from crap life. Now I couldn't doing anything I love doing until 6 weeks ago I was riding again and meeting new folks. filed bankruptcy and cleared our debit that was making me not do anything and been VERY tight on food.

My wife noticed how instantly I became happy I have become. Hell even my doctor thought I needed treatment but I refused completely. money and diet and hobbies and work plays big part. There are many folks bored and unhappy with work etc but these fixes can be done in some ways by not taking the bill. I will say most of them can do something about it with out any medical help.

I know 8 folks who was getting treatment and 6 of them served in the wars in Iraq and afgan and lost friends etc and 1 because they lost a child. When dramatic events happen treatment is there to help.

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Ironically, we live in the most luxurious, carefree, and leisurely time in the history of man, yet that very sedentary lifestyle and poor diet eliminate natural factors which reduce stress and produce contentment. I'm afraid our unhealthy lifestyles may exceed medical progress, which so far has done a good job of keeping us alive, and we may see a decline in life expectancies in the next couple of generations...
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Faceman you are correct in using diet and exercise.
However, if you or anyone is experiencing depression that last more than 6 months you need to consult a DR. Diet and excercise are not effective enough for those who are servely and chronically depressed for long periods of time.
Depression is a serious diesease and can be treated very well. The earlier the better.
North your post lead me to believe that you were not chronically or severly depressed. People who are need to seek medical attention.
Faceman and whoever posted about the inmates and the TBs, that is one of my points. Everyone needs a purpose in life and to do something that is worthwhile. Those programs with the pitbulls and horses work.
the self esteem of the inmate or parolee is improved drastically. Thus changing their lives and improving their future.
I tell my clients they all need to have a job, have a friend, and a hobby.
This will give you somewhere to go, someone to talk to when you get there and something to talk about. Shalom
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When I get depressed or stressed out I turn to diet and exercise and can accomplish the same thing as taking drugs.
YES! And it's not only good for adults, but kids too - especially teens. Tired kids don't get into trouble.
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This is important.

Everyone I must advise , that if you are taking medication for depression or anxiety, it is very important that you seek medical advice before stopping or changing the dosage. This is important.
I do not mean to challenge any one who has posted their opinions about the medication.
Your depression can worsen to the point of harming yourself or others. Consult a DR before making any changes.
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