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        08-10-2011, 02:24 PM
      #21
    Foal
    SR, if you don't have the time or the patience for conspiracy theorists, this is probably not the thread for you.

    Asking questions of government is part of the foundation of our country, the reason we have one. I can't see asking questions about an event our government was deeply involved in as wrong either, as an extension of the former premise.

    Statements like that last sentence of yours are often found in the worst dredges of politics. Disagree with me? Okay, I'm going to exaggerate what you said to the nth degree, take it out of context, and make it look (to the not so careful observer) that you said something that didn't even come close to the language or intent of the original statement. That sort of single-minded, attack dog mentally is not "being passionate," it's dangerous.
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        08-10-2011, 02:32 PM
      #22
    Showing
    I remember that day like it was yesterday. I was doing an audit on a bank vault (no one in, no one out until finished) so I had no clue what happened. I came out 3 hours later to find everyone on the line in tears. One of the girls working lost a cousin that day.

    Such a tragic event. Those images will be burned in all of our minds forever. I just pray we don't have to witness another.
         
        08-10-2011, 02:46 PM
      #23
    Showing
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Serendipitous    
    Asking questions of government is part of the foundation of our country, the reason we have one.
    Please point out to me anywhere I said we can't question government? I'm hardly a blind, flag waving fool.

    So the person who blathered on with complete ignorance and who was totally offensive isn't taken to task, but I am? How does that work?

    He's obviously just parroting crap he heard, since if he had any real knowledge he'd know that the Pentagon is huge, aircraft wings aren't made out of metal, and that hole was MASSIVE. It might have looked small to anyone who doesn't know the actual size of the Pentagon, but trust me, it most certainly was big enough.

    But then, maybe actually living through part of that horrific day instead of just watching it on TV has made me a little less tolerant of downright ignorance and deliberately misleading claims.
         
        08-10-2011, 03:02 PM
      #24
    Green Broke
    Conspiracy theorists have their place and a healthy level of suspicion of government is necessary to keep everyone honest (as much as any government can be). Who is right or wrong in this debate makes little difference to those who died and to those who lost loved ones.

    I (even as a non-American) find it in poor taste to bring up 9/11 conspiracy theories on a thread that is remembering the horrifying event and those that were lost. It seems so cold to talk of conspiracy theories in that context. Almost as bad as mentioning Holocaust conspiracy theories in a thread with pictures of the mass graves. JMO.
         
        08-10-2011, 03:11 PM
      #25
    Weanling
    I was 14 at the time and I remember feeling very, well, bored with the entire process by the time noon rolled around. Being Canadian, it didn't affect me as much as it did Americans and I couldn't really justify why the destruction was plastered all over every TV, newspaper and radio station. I understand now, but at the time, all I wanted was to get on with my daily lessons and not watch news coverage anymore. It was a school day and our teachers made us watch the updates all day. They kept us in our home room for breaks, lunch hours... everything and I remember feeling very resentful for being forced to pay attention to something that I just didn't care about.

    I understand the significance now and the only reason I can offer for my ignorance is age and location. Canadians weren't affected that day. Our country wasn't attacked and we didn't witness the destruction first-hand. Now I understand. The world hasn't been the same since.
         
        08-10-2011, 03:28 PM
      #26
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by Courtney    
    Canadians weren't affected that day. Our country wasn't attacked and we didn't witness the destruction first-hand.
    Canadians WERE very much affected that day, and if they weren't, then there have been a fair number of Canadians lose their life in the war that followed. If I remember correctly, there were also Canadians who worked in the Towers, or were on flights.

    Canada and the US are hand-holding countries. If something happens to Canada, you can bet the US would be right there, backing us up, just like we did with them.

    Besides the horror of the event, I also had to endure sending my brother off to war, not to mention other friends that I grew up with. Not knowing where they are, or how they are has an unreal effect on a body that you do not realize until you get them safely home.
         
        08-10-2011, 04:11 PM
      #27
    Yearling
    I was ten. I didn't really understand what had happened, I remember getting up earlier than usual for school, and my parents were watching the news, and I asked what happened? My dad said, "Some bad guys crashed some planes into a building." It wasn't until I got to school and all the teachers were freaking out that I realized the magnitude of what had happened. Those pictures make my heart sink when I think of all we lost that day.
         
        08-10-2011, 05:46 PM
      #28
    Foal
    Is it sad that I don't remember exactly? I think I was at school, 8 years old, and the teachers actually cut the TV's on, so we could all watch. My mom picked me up early that day. We have family up that ways, so we were scared for everyone. We took a trip up there not long after to visit them.

    The whole thing sickens me, really.
         
        08-10-2011, 06:00 PM
      #29
    Yearling
    I was 10 at the time. I don't really have any personal response to how it effected me, as much as now, looking back on it and having heard the stories of family and friends from it.

    My aunts, uncle and cousins lived 5 blocks from the Twin Towers, I have heard the stories from them, how my cousins(then 10 and 15) were trapped on the subway and couldn't get home to their parents for 3 days, and how much destruction and emotional terror it put through them.

    I went to Ground Zero in October of 2008 and that was when it hit me. The massive wave of emotions, when I was just standing there looking at the chain link fence with green camo wrap, and the crane on Ground Zero with the Flag hanging off it, preparing the grounds to rebuild. I'm not angry over it, I'm incredibly sad and pretty numb still, when I think about what happened.

    And then this past June, while I was waiting for a flight to NY out of my home city, I met a fire fighter and police officer who now lives here, but was based in Pennsylvania at the time. His fire dept. Was less than an couple hours from NYC and was one of the first responders on the scene... To see this guy describe the scenario and what happened, and see the emotions in HIS eyes is probably one of the most real things I've experienced. To hear the respect, sadness, and strength in his voice...it was very sobering and bone chilling.
    You just can't wrap your head around something like this...

    I have an immense amount of respect for anyone who has had any connections with 9-11 and for our country as a whole, how we handled it, and how we are (still) overcoming it.
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        08-10-2011, 06:03 PM
      #30
    Green Broke
    I don't remember it at all. I'm ashamed... Everyone but me seems to know where they were and what they were doing. I suppose I didn't know enough to gasp the situation back then. In hindsight, I can see the situation better. I re-watched videos of the attacks and was heart broken, now that I could see clearly what had happened... And who it had effected. Now I get terribly sad thinking about the people who burned and were crushed in that building.

    I get a bit teary imagining what that was like... And how fearful the nation was. "American is being attacked!" That's one of the scariest things I can imagine.
         

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