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post #21 of 33 Old 03-29-2010, 08:36 AM
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Back when we were breeding Scotties we fed Iams puppy. We were very happy with it and the pups did super on it.
He looks like a smart little fellow. I love the name too, Phoenix very cute!


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post #22 of 33 Old 03-29-2010, 09:10 AM
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on the feed thing.. go to a real pet store (like not Safeway or your grocery store) and ask them .. they will know what is a better feed :)
Actually your vet will know best.

It will depend on what you are doing with the dog. Inside only, outside only or in and out.

Fresh water and a good quality teething chew are important for puppies too.
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Fresh water and a good quality teething chew are important for puppies too.
Yep and yep.

I scrub and refill my dog's water bowl once a day, just like I do with the horses' water buckets. I figure I wouldn't want to drink out of a nasty, dirty glass, so why would I subject my animals to dirty water?

Verrryyyy cute puppy, BTW. Isn't he a herding breed? Going to have a lot of energy, and they're extremely intelligent. You're going to have to keep him exercised and engaged, otherwise he may turn into a destructive, holy terror.

There's a reason why I have a Great Dane; they're like breathing furniture!
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Absolutely adorable!! Look at that pink nose and those blue eyes! Congrats on your new puppy. Dogs are absolutely phenomenal.
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post #25 of 33 Old 03-29-2010, 03:28 PM
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If you decide to do a raw diet you need to speak with an veterinary NUTRITIONIST. I already have more (quite a few) nutrition classes than your average vet gets in vet school, so most of them don't have the knowledge right of the top of their heads. However, they can point you in the right direction or if they really like you do a lot of legwork for you and formulate a correct diet. You can really screw up the nutrient balances by feeding a raw diet. I could find some pics that will make you weep when you see what people have done to their pups/kittens feeding them raw.

Your easiest option is to find a good quality puppy food. Find something that specifically says "For puppies" or the equivalent on the label. If you can't afford the more "quality" foods (solid gold, fromms, eagle pack, etc) you can feed puppy chow and the dog will be fine. His coat might not be as shiny and he might poop more, but you're not going to kill him or cause any health problems by feeding a cheaper/lower quality food.

Mls & Speed Racer were correct about free choice, CLEAN water and quality chew toys. Be careful about rawhide and nylabones (I think that was the one) if you have a big chewer though or one who tends to basically eat them. They can cause an obstruction... or just some really nasty sticky puke. Personally I like the Kongs or other "indestructible" dog toys, but my boy did get rawhides and raw bones. I just had to watch them and limit his time.
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Aww... he's cute . I like his eyes.

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LOL, I totally forgot to say..... He's absolutely beautiful. Makes me want to run out and get another puppy.
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Yea, we wash the dishes out, that one we have had for at least 8 yrs lol so its stained and needs a good bleaching. Plus I'm hoping to have ceramic or stainless steal instead of plastic which seems harder to keep clean. I am worried about not making the diet perfect and I want Phoenix to get the best nutrition possible. I don't free feed, I leave water out all the time and I measure out food according to weight and need (age, work, and metabolism).I also like to give vitamins but recently read that their useless, but I don't know that I would believe that.

Another thing is I was curious about underground fencing. I would really rather not shock my dog, but I don't like to tether and really don't want him to get hit by a car should he choose to leave the yard. I want to give him as much run room as possible and can't afford a 6' chain link that runs my whole yard (which is HUGE). What do you guys think?
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Your run (on the other thread) sounds good for when your unable to have him with you. Otherwise for exercise I would take him on runs, bike rides, and get involved in agility. In my opinion/experience dogs don't need to "run".... they need exercise and training. If you do need something to tie him out on or something like that try a long cable strung between two trees with a ring on it. Clip a double headed lead/line/cable to that. That gives them more room to run and isn't as much of a pain as a stake in the ground or something like that.

If you are worried about balancing a diet don't go raw. It's a lot of work and you really need to be careful, especially with a growing dog. You can really screw it up easily.

I fed Solid Gold for awhile and really liked it. Fromms is a good food too as is Eagle Pack. Right now I feed NutriSource and have seen good results with my dog. Canidae is another really good food. Here are a couple links.

Nutrisource Super Premium Pet Foods
Eagle Pack Pet Foods, Inc.
Fromm Family Foods - Gourmet Pet Food, Naturally Holistic
Dog Food: All Natural, High Quality, Holistic Pet Food. Dog Foods, Cat Foods, Dog Biscuits
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The Honest Kitchen is a wet brand of dog food (I believe they have dry variety as well) and honestly it smells good enough that I would eat it. The pot pie smells like pot pie. Its all dehydrated food, just add warm water and you're good to go.

Fromm is also excellent food, great if you have a dog with a sensitive stomach. Solid gold seems to give dogs really nice coats as well, but smells completely awful.
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