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post #31 of 47 Old 09-20-2013, 01:35 PM
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During 25 years in the military, the only jury duty I ever had was under military law. I did delay my jury duty for Federal Court this summer. The following month, I called in on Saturday and was told my week of jury duty would not be needed.

I'm tired of being retired and am taking paralegal classes now. The classes are doing NOTHING for my respect of the legal system. Just last night, the teacher admitted the law firm she works at won't touch a lawsuit for under $1,000,000 because there isn't enough profit in it for them. I am repeatedly seeing cases where a government agency or business is being brought in on the remotest of reasons, not because they did anything significant, but because they have money that can be taken. I've also read too many cases where, after 3-4 years of trial, the case against the defendant was dismissed for having no legal basis - yet the defendant has spent 4 years and possible $100K fighting a charge that eventually is rejected in summary judgment. And the defendant is out the money & time, and the legal system says, "So what? At least the plaintiff had their day in court!"

All that said, I'd hate to live in a place where judges (who come from lawyers) decided all the cases! And if we need juries, then we need jury duty - and need decent, reasonable, thinking people to serve on them.

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post #32 of 47 Old 09-20-2013, 01:58 PM
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I'd be glad to post a photo of mine if you'd like. No specific nothing.
I'm curious and since you are offering, sure post it! Also, what state do you live in? I want to make sure I do not live in your state and have the same thing happen to me.
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I've always wondered if they should allow people to unregister to vote and this be skipped from jury duty - you can't serve until you're registered, right? Wonder how that would impact the polls.
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I've always wondered if they should allow people to unregister to vote and this be skipped from jury duty - you can't serve until you're registered, right? Wonder how that would impact the polls.
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In Oregon they started using DMV records for jury duty as there wasn't a large enough pool available from registered voters.
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Sure, I'll post it when I get off work. I have to censor information out first and I don't have time to do that at the moment. I am in California and I was actually chosen as a final juror so I go back next week, but that doesn't bother me much because that gives me time to schedule my work/school and other things around it.
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I hope no one minds me posting here as I'm a Canadian and my thoughts may not be pertinent.

Firstly, from the perspective of selecting a jury, I should think if I was on either of the defense/prosecution teams (or whatever terms are appropriate) that I would not want to see jury members that have been forced into serving. Coming into a situation with negative feelings or attitude could skew the final decision. Secondly, I dislike that certain members of society are excluded from jury duty because of their occupations (eg doctors are too valuable (I recognize they are important though) to be taken out of production) - we're all equal before the law aren't we? Thirdly, I dislike that the law says you are to be judged by a jury of your peers yet the final group of jurors is anything but - if that is the law then, using the doctor example earlier, if it is a doctor on trial then the jury should be made up of doctors, etc.

Would it not make better sense to have a pool of people developed who will voluntarily sit as jurors? If these folks attend a few trials and develop their expertise as jurors (eg understanding the system, legal language, presentation of evidence, etc.) would that not make them more efficient and competent at making the decision over dragging in people off the street (so to speak)?
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I hope no one minds me posting here as I'm a Canadian and my thoughts may not be pertinent.

Firstly, from the perspective of selecting a jury, I should think if I was on either of the defense/prosecution teams (or whatever terms are appropriate) that I would not want to see jury members that have been forced into serving. Coming into a situation with negative feelings or attitude could skew the final decision. Secondly, I dislike that certain members of society are excluded from jury duty because of their occupations (eg doctors are too valuable (I recognize they are important though) to be taken out of production) - we're all equal before the law aren't we? Thirdly, I dislike that the law says you are to be judged by a jury of your peers yet the final group of jurors is anything but - if that is the law then, using the doctor example earlier, if it is a doctor on trial then the jury should be made up of doctors, etc.

Would it not make better sense to have a pool of people developed who will voluntarily sit as jurors? If these folks attend a few trials and develop their expertise as jurors (eg understanding the system, legal language, presentation of evidence, etc.) would that not make them more efficient and competent at making the decision over dragging in people off the street (so to speak)?
In many cases the defense does NOT want peers. I was called for a product liability case and it was obvious the defense did not want anyone with a technical background, e.g. engineer.
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Jury of peers: "In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed..."

The intent is to have jurors who have similar background, to some extent. If I were tried by jurors involving a self-defense case here in Arizona, I probably would not want the jurors drawn from New York City.

I see no purpose for a professional jury. I might as well be tried by a judge. Most of the lawyers and folks involved in the law are a lot more liberal than I am. I see no indication that involvement with the law results in someone having above-average common sense. If anything, I think it is the reverse.

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My thoughts on the judicial system will most def. never, in no way effect my overall opinion. I go off of facts and facts presented. I was openly honest about every question I was asked by both attorneys and the judge.
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I think it's really unfair that I sent back my excuse because I am in school and I NEED to be in class, but apparently they didn't accept my excuse. So the automated system told me to call back tonight to see when they would need me. Apparently I'm supposed to be there at 730AM tomorrow!? Ummm a 12 hour notice?? I don't think so...I have class and work tomorrow. I just think it's ridiculous. They didn't even give me time to sort out my schedule. My question is, what happens if I don't go?
It's the price we pay for living in a nation that gaurentees the right to a fair trial by your peers. As big of a pain it is just go. Jobs deal with it all the time. Just hope you don't get stuck on a grand jury.
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