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        05-23-2012, 05:03 AM
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    Green Broke
    Plus look at it this way....
    My father is 51 yrs old. He works full time and overtime at the plant to bring home enough money....
    I can retire at my 20 yr mark as a 38 yr old with LOADS of experience.

    Another thing I forgot to mention is we get PAID EDUCATION. How many people can say that. So when I get out in 5, 10, 20 whatever years ill be making full retirement, ill have multiple degrees, and ill have full medical still. Military has it made.

    PSS. I GET PAID TO GO AROUND THE WORLD AND SEE THINGS. Doesnt get better than that.
         
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        05-23-2012, 07:38 AM
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    Originally Posted by Missy May    
    And Kittan Val, imho, that is not completely true. Like faceman said...if they are some sort of "minority" or have some sort of "disability"- it seems near impossible to fire them.
    MM, I was just curious because that's what I've heard (and never felt comfortable enough to ask the current federal employee about it ). In my experience with several government places some of those folks do pretty bad job (if any at all), and in a private company would be kicked out in first six months.

    Personally I think the word "minority" (whether minority is by gender, race, or origin) should be removed from the list of "advantages" while hiring or accepting into the school. However I do think those with veteran or disability status should be given a credit.
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        05-23-2012, 07:55 AM
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    Green Broke
    I looked it up again and Congress members elected after 1984 are covered under the federal employee retirement system. Perhaps you have some links that are contrary to the pages posted on federal websights ?
    The internet hoaxes people get in a tizzy about have been floating around for awhile, claiming congress gets all kinds of benefits they simply don't get. I imagine there are many they do get that they shouldnt. But if we are going to be upset about something and seek change lets at least make sure we are getting upset at actual things.
         
        05-23-2012, 09:46 AM
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    Originally Posted by Joe4d    
    I looked it up again and Congress members elected after 1984 are covered under the federal employee retirement system. Perhaps you have some links that are contrary to the pages posted on federal websights ?
    The internet hoaxes people get in a tizzy about have been floating around for awhile, claiming congress gets all kinds of benefits they simply don't get. I imagine there are many they do get that they shouldnt. But if we are going to be upset about something and seek change lets at least make sure we are getting upset at actual things.
    Yes, they are covered by FERS (Federal Employee Retirement System). If you read my posts, there are several plans for different classifications of employees. Here is a link to a short chart if you need to know the specifics. FERS Computation

    Basically, Congress gets 1.7% of their high 3 salary average for every year of service. Regular employees get 1%, or 1.1% if they are bogth 62 and have 20 years of service. So...for 20 years of service a Congressperson gets 34% of their salary, and a regular emplyee gets 22% if they are at least 62. That is a big difference when you are talking about retirement income...
         
        05-23-2012, 10:32 AM
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    Trained
    I am a retired Air Force Captain. I was diagnosed with cancer in 1987 retired in 1988. I have never had any problem finding medical treatment using TRICARE. Maybe that is because a large portion of military retirees stay in Texas.
    I have no problem paying more for copays.
    I receive a retirement from the USAF, a VA pension, and was able to work full time for the last 25 years. Most military retirees work full time.
    I still accept some referals from the VA in Dallas. My experience with federal employees is different than what most people are describing.
    Most I have found there to be very dedicated and courteous. Not all, but most. Shalom
         
        05-23-2012, 12:59 PM
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    I think most VA professional and technical employees are pretty good...that can't be said for the lower ranking support staffs, but they are so overworked right now most of them are horribly burned out and frustrated. The hospitals aren't too awfully bad, but the CBOCs (community based outreach clinics) are literally swamped...the CBOCs are where most of the vets that use VA go for primary care. The one Mrs. Face works at in Branson has well over 1 1/2 times the patients per doctor as most private clinics. The doctor Mrs. Face works with is very patient oriented and doesn't just herd them through like cattle, but he has so many patients assigned to him he is about to go nutso. He's fairly young, but I think he is going to retire from the VA at the end of the year and go back to private practice - he is just too overworked day in day out. There are so many PTSD patients that are druggies and have mental health problems it is a pretty thankless job...the clinic couldn't even function without the security guards as a lot of patients get out of hand, and all the employees have been threatened at one time or another. It's a tough job...
         
        05-23-2012, 01:04 PM
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    I am a retired Air Force Captain. I was diagnosed with cancer in 1987 retired in 1988. I have never had any problem finding medical treatment using TRICARE. Maybe that is because a large portion of military retirees stay in Texas.
    I have no problem paying more for copays.
    I receive a retirement from the USAF, a VA pension, and was able to work full time for the last 25 years. Most military retirees work full time.
    I still accept some referals from the VA in Dallas. My experience with federal employees is different than what most people are describing.
    Most I have found there to be very dedicated and courteous. Not all, but most. Shalom
    Haha...you are as bad as my uncle, who passed some years ago. He was a Major in the Army, had a heart attack, and was retired with a full medical and then lived 55 years, except he never did work again...
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        05-23-2012, 01:22 PM
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    I still accept some referals from the VA in Dallas. My experience with federal employees is different than what most people are describing.
    Most I have found there to be very dedicated and courteous. Not all, but most. Shalom
    This was certainly the case when our son, a Marine vet, had outpatient surgery at the VA in Durham. All the staff on the floor and the doctors (all from Duke across the street) where extremely nice...much more so than any hospital I've been in.
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        05-23-2012, 01:33 PM
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    Originally Posted by dbarabians    
    I am a retired Air Force Captain. I was diagnosed with cancer in 1987 retired in 1988. I have never had any problem finding medical treatment using TRICARE. Maybe that is because a large portion of military retirees stay in Texas.
    I have no problem paying more for copays.
    I receive a retirement from the USAF, a VA pension, and was able to work full time for the last 25 years. Most military retirees work full time.
    I still accept some referals from the VA in Dallas. My experience with federal employees is different than what most people are describing.
    Most I have found there to be very dedicated and courteous. Not all, but most. Shalom
    Tricare is not accepted by the majority of doctors in my area, and that is true in a lot of places (multiple areas in multiple states).
    It is not the increase in copay that most can't "handle", it is the principle AND the increase.
    And, read it carefully...once you turn 65, or 66 (can't remember and don't want to get a joe4)...you will have to buy into medicare. That is not in the "original plan"...(i.e., the contract you signed). So, your cost will eventually go up more.
    The fact that most military retirees work isn't really relevant to military retirement or medical benefits.
    I know a lot of very dedicated federal employees - most of which hit seriouse burn out b/c they are shoveling sand against the tide. I have also seen - up close and in person - a very wide variety of many facets of federally funded departments in different states, and their contractors...and it is near incomprehensible how much "dead weight" there is. That doesn't mean some aren't doing their job...those are the ones that will need an "office visit".
         
        05-23-2012, 11:28 PM
      #30
    Trained
    I do understand that at 65 I will use Medicare first then TRICARE second.
    I went through this with my mother.
    However with my VA disability rating of 100% I do not have to pay a dime at any VA facility for any care dental included.
    When I was retired I could access any military hospital free of charge. This has changed.
    Missy May whatever insurance you have will be charged second after anyone turns 65.
    The government is already providing healthcare for the majority of people over 65.
    No hospital I , my mother or father ever went to ever had a problem taking TRICARE. All the major hospitals in the Dallas Ft Worth area accept TRICARE. I know this for a fact.
    TRICARE and my own private insurance cover any medical expense that I or my daughters have ever been charged.
    Missy May I get what you are saying though the benefits Veterans and Retirees have are being eroded.
    One of the problems I have with eliminating Federal Jobs is that a lot of Veterans are employed by the government. In fact they have preferance over non veterans. Shalom
         

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