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post #31 of 43 Old 10-07-2010, 10:24 AM
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Why pierce your ears? Why dye your hair? Why get tattoos? Why buy fashionable clothing? Makeup?

The OP may be able to give you a specific reason for why he chose to do it.

Body mods in general are for aesthetic and spiritual purposes and self expression.
Sorry, but this isn't a good comparision. People get ear piercings, makeup, clothes and hair dye to look better. These extreme modifications do not make people look better. You can say all you want that it's self expression, but what is it you are trying to express? That you can do weird things to your body? That you have dreams of being a lizard? That is is possible to cut a tongue or stick pieces of metal through yourself? Please, enlighten me. I knew it was possible to do these things without going out and doing them, and messing up my body for life. Only 3rd world countries do this for religious purposes. I have yet to see anyone say "Well, I don't want to split my tongue...but my religion says I have to, so I guess I will...". Trying to justify it religiously/spiritually is BS.

People do this to themselves because they want attention and haven't figured out how to get it by actually achieving something. That's why you mainly see teenagers/young adults doing it, because they want attention and this is a "rebellious" way to do it.

If your priority in life is trying to find ways to look freakish, that makes me not want to associate with you. It just looks like you don't think about the long term consequences of your actions. I think most employers would agree with that as well.

Sorry OP, what you did is definitely shocking, but it doesn't make me think of you in a positive way.

I hope any teenagers reading this realize that getting these things done will make people NOT take you seriously for the rest of your life. Get piercings if you want, you can at least pull those out when you grow up, but doing things like this will give you a lot of trouble when you want to be taken seriously in the world. You will be held back considerable.
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post #32 of 43 Old 10-07-2010, 10:36 AM
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Ptv, most of these folks aren't what I'd consider mainstream, anyway.

Yes, if they do extreme body modifications, then they can't expect people to just accept them and not point, stare, and wonder about their sanity. It comes with the territory, and I think most of them get that.

I just wonder how they're going to feel about all their modifications when they're older and aren't the hip, young, 'rebellious' youths anymore. Then they're just going to be the creepy old freaks down the road who scare children.

Folks who go in for these kinds of modifications never expect to fit into the corporate world. Many of them are performance artists and sideshow attractions.
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Sorry, but this isn't a good comparision. People get ear piercings, makeup, clothes and hair dye to look better. These extreme modifications do not make people look better. You can say all you want that it's self expression, but what is it you are trying to express? That you can do weird things to your body? That you have dreams of being a lizard? That is is possible to cut a tongue or stick pieces of metal through yourself? Please, enlighten me. I knew it was possible to do these things without going out and doing them, and messing up my body for life. Only 3rd world countries do this for religious purposes. I have yet to see anyone say "Well, I don't want to split my tongue...but my religion says I have to, so I guess I will...". Trying to justify it religiously/spiritually is BS.

People do this to themselves because they want attention and haven't figured out how to get it by actually achieving something. That's why you mainly see teenagers/young adults doing it, because they want attention and this is a "rebellious" way to do it.

If your priority in life is trying to find ways to look freakish, that makes me not want to associate with you. It just looks like you don't think about the long term consequences of your actions. I think most employers would agree with that as well.

Sorry OP, what you did is definitely shocking, but it doesn't make me think of you in a positive way.

I hope any teenagers reading this realize that getting these things done will make people NOT take you seriously for the rest of your life. Get piercings if you want, you can at least pull those out when you grow up, but doing things like this will give you a lot of trouble when you want to be taken seriously in the world. You will be held back considerable.
Agreed with all of this.
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I hope any teenagers reading this realize that getting these things done will make people NOT take you seriously for the rest of your life. Get piercings if you want, you can at least pull those out when you grow up, but doing things like this will give you a lot of trouble when you want to be taken seriously in the world. You will be held back considerable.
i just turned 18, i've wanted certain tattoos and piercings for a while! But now that i've turned 18 and got a regular job i've realized i can't even have any piercings or tattoos that they can see. So my next thought was, i spent money, 2 weeks worth of healing and an incredible amount of pain for my tongue ring to just have to get taken out?

Then i thought about my mom.. what would i say if she had her tongue pierced or tattoos all over her body? I'd be absolutely mortified.

Conclusion - if you see older guys, dads, granddads, etc. they have tattoos and it's perfectly fine (debating on what they have). But what do you think when you see a grandpa walking down the beach with his grandson or granddaughter? It's sweet, huh? Now imagine he turns around and has horns coming out of his head, nipples pierced, tongue split, facial tattoos and piercings coming out of every possible place. < (fyi, this is what i picture. The Horse Forum definitely made this for men like that ;). BUT as i was saying, I'd be concerned. Wouldn't you? NOT anything to diss the OP, that's perfectly fine what you do with your body, but just consider that part for the future :).

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i wanted my tounge split for a lot of years so when i could get it done i did it and tattoo's i am full of them and i will carry on getting them as my next one is a pic of my kids on my rib cage
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Actually, I personally think they make some people look better and are attractive. This is why I mentioned the OPs reasons my be differant and Taboo will explain more. There's also a documentary called Modify which shows different reasons. Aesthetics is a reason for me. Obviously not for you.

I will not be getting anything that can not be concealed because I need to be able to present myself a certain way in the work place. I had my tongue and lip pierced in the past but those have been removed for that reason.

I'm not saying that it is socially acceptable or that people won't judge you but for me it's not very shocking because I am so used to being around heavily modified individuals so I'm not as judgmental. I'm not (nor are others with various modifications) ignorant enough to think others won't see it differently.

Don't tell me it's not a good comparison though because that is how I feel about it and my personal reasons for modifications (though I don't have any extreme ones as that.)

As far as attention: For some people I think this is true. People who work in the "freak" or entertainment industry (Ie: the lizard man) are certainly doing it for shock value. For me it has nothing to do with shock value as most of what I have is concealed. Friends of mine have elaborated how their mods are personal as well.
Not saying people don't do it for attention but wanted to explain that that is not always the case.

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Wow, Ptv, how very judgemental of you.

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Hmm..you have guts that's all I can say...

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Some people like it. I would never do it, but it's whatever floats your boat. I'm sure he's well aware of not being able to get certain jobs. I'm guessing he wouldn't want those jobs anyway.
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Well, that's part of the reason I suggested watching the Taboo series; the people interviewed who do these things give their reasons behind why they're doing them.

They're as varied as each individual, so no two answers will exactly match, although there are similarities.
Fair enough, I will endeavour to catch an episode of Taboo and perhaps expand my horizons somewhat. Of course, not if it is on at the same time as Law and Order.

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