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must read this , from another forum

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I don't understand why every US citizen is not alarm at the direction the Obama regime is taking us.

So what are Adolph Hitler’s historical footsteps?
At the age of 35 Adolph Hitler would write a book called, “Mein Kampf” (translated as “My Struggle”). It would be an autobiography containing insights pertaining to his early years, political ideas, and thoughts on race.
At the age of 34 Barack Obama would write a book called, “Dreams of my Father”, also an autobiography highlighting his early years, political ideas, and thoughts on race.
Hitler’s “Zweites Buch” (translated as “Second Book”) contains a deeper understanding of his political ideas. The same can also be said about Obama’s second book, “The Audacity of Hope”.
Both Hitler and Obama used their books as a springboard to further their political careers. The title of Obama’s second book was based on a sermon of Reverend Wright and was the foundational basis of the speech he gave at the Democratic National Convention in 2004. It was that speech which caught the attention of the media and the public, both of whom propelled him to political stardom. He further expounded on those ideas to publish his second book in 2006, just before announcing his run for the Presidency. The book was on the New York Times best-seller list for 30 weeks.
Ok, so they have a similar childhood and they both wrote two books around similar themes. So what? Well, we suspected both might have had NPD too. Let’s talk a little more about NPD to see if there is really a connection to be concerned about here.
Criteria for narcissistic personality disorder to be diagnosed include9:
  1. Having an exaggerated sense of self-importance
  2. Being preoccupied with fantasies about success, power or beauty
  3. Believing that you are special and can associate only with equally special people
  4. Requiring constant admiration
  5. Having a sense of entitlement
  6. Taking advantage of others
  7. Inability to recognize needs and feelings of others
  8. Being envious of others
  9. Behaving in an arrogant or haughty manner
I would be willing to speculate that a person who feels the need to write an autobiography in their mid-thirties might be entertaining an exaggerated sense of self-importance. Both Hitler and Obama felt their life was worth documenting for the public even before either had started their political careers. As mentioned earlier, both Hitler and Obama were described by others as being shy or awkward children with dreams of being in powerful positions of leadership. Both followed that dream, perhaps because they were preoccupied with fantasies about success and power? As I go down the list of nine NPD criteria I can see a number of them which could be applied to both Obama and Hitler. This should be a concern because we know the outcome in Hitler’s case, but we don’t really know all that much about Barack Obama. He hasn’t released the vault copy of his birth certificate, records of his activity logs while in the Illinois State Senate, SAT scores, college transcripts, thesis paper, medical records, tax returns, list of clients he worked for as a lawyer, etc. Like Hitler, Obama has distanced himself even from childhood friends10 (see below right), not to mention other controversial associates such as William Ayers, Reverend Wright, Tony Rezko, Frank Marshall Davis, etc. Without full transparency people must look at documented history and recorded actions to learn what this man is all about. Does Obama hold the same or similar convictions and/or associations as Hitler?
Abortion (Infanticide)...Yes
(Obama's 10 reasons for supporting infanticide)
Universal Health Care...Yes
Gun Control...Yes
(Barack Obama on Gun Control)
(Jeremiah Wright, Rashid Khalidi, Samantha Powers, Robert Malley, William Ayers, Louis Farrakhan, El-Hady)
Left-Wing Radicalism...Yes
((UPDATED) A Dangerous Mixture of Lies and Omissions: Obama, Ayers, Wright and Farrakhan : NO QUARTER)
(Barack Obama's Stealth Socialism)

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I am concerned for the security of our great Nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within. Douglas MacArthur
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RegalCharm, I agree with you 100% the direction in which he is taking our beloved Country is something that turns my stomach. The man is arrogant and self serving he is the "It's all about me" poster child.
Every thing I love about my country, every constitutional right, and our FREEDOM is being stripped away.

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I am so happy I live in Canada. Although in many ways it does not protect me. This saddens me.
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I honestly think this is all conspiracy crap. And yes, I thoroughly researched each candidate before voting.
I have yet to see anything that makes my stomaches churn and do not feel that my freedom is being stripped away at all.
My 2cents though.
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I took a writing class in college that we were required to read 'The End of America'. Its on a whole bunch of conspiracy theories that the US will end up with another Hitlar in control. .... this isn't a new idea.
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Honestly, I'm in agreement with Spastic and Roan. This seems quite absurd. My freedom seems to be as much mine as it ever was, and I don't feel that that will change.

Also - we have a system that can and will remove a president from office. We've done it before (technically, none were ever "removed" but you get where I'm going.) I mean, if Obama suddenly starts acting amiss, I'm sure Congress isn't going to sit around and go, "Well, he's president, might as well let him." I mean, yes, the president is "commander in chief," but when it comes to being in office, he doesn't have the final say. Congress does.

Not that I think it'll come to that, I think Obama is going to be good for this country.

My opinion though.
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here is the first link, this stuff has already been voted on

With almost no public attention, both chambers of Congress in the past week advanced an alarming expansion of the Americorps national service plan, with the number of federally funded community service job increasing from 75,000 to 250,000 at a cost of $5.7 billion. Lurking behind the feel-good rhetoric spouted by the measure’s advocates is a bill that on closer inspection reveals multiple provisions that together create a strong odor of creepy authoritarianism. The House passed the measure overwhelmingly, while only 14 senators had the sense and courage to vote against it on a key procedural motion. Every legislator who either voted for this bill or didn’t vote at all has some serious explaining to do.

Last summer, then-candidate Barack Obama threw civil liberties to the wind when he proposed “a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded” as the regular military. The expanded Americorps is not quite so disturbing, but a number of provisions in the bill raise serious concerns.

To begin with, the legislation threatens the voluntary nature of Americorps by calling for consideration of “a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people.” It anticipates the possibility of requiring “all individuals in the United States” to perform such service – including elementary school students. The bill also summons up unsettling memories of World War II-era paramilitary groups by saying the new program should “combine the best practices of civilian service with the best aspects of military service,” while establishing “campuses” that serve as “operational headquarters,” complete with “superintendents” and “uniforms” for all participants. It allows for the elimination of all age restrictions in order to involve Americans at all stages of life. And it calls for creation of “a permanent cadre” in a “National Community Civilian Corps.”

But that’s not all. The bill also calls for “youth engagement zones” in which “service learning” is “a mandatory part of the curriculum in all of the secondary schools served by the local educational agency.” This updated form of voluntary community service is also to be “integrated into the science, technology, engineering and mathematics curricula” at all levels of schooling. Sounds like a government curriculum for government approved “service learning,” which is nothing less than indoctrination. Now, ask yourself if congressmen who voted for this monstrosity had a clue what they were voting for. If not, they’re guilty of dereliction of duty. If yes, the implications are truly frightening.


Between being first officially "reported" to the House and being voted on by the full House, bill managers stripped one whole section of the measure that created a Congressional Commission on Civil Service, thus removing the section that contained the language cited above concerning "a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people" and a possible requirement for "all individuals in the United States" to perform such service. The section could be restored during the Senate-House conference committee meeting. A new, separate bill containing that language has since been introduced in the House.

And the last link is a video of Obamas speeches and replies by congressmen, It is
interesting listening in itself.

I am concerned for the security of our great Nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within. Douglas MacArthur

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That is a very bad analogy and you CANNOT conclude Obama will follow the same path as Hitler just because they both happened to write some books.

And oh gosh, heaven forbid he should want universal healthcare because Hitler did too! I love my universal healthcare here in the UK, and a bad person supporting a good idea doesn't make it a bad idea.

Very weak, poor, biased, sensationalist argument.

I am not one of those people who thinks Obama is some sort of saviour. I believe he is human and has the human weaknesses, faults and follies we all share. But it is highly unlikely he is going to create another holocaust.

Whether or not you think Obama is a positive or negative thing for the US, I would urge you to actually analyse the arguments presented. No matter what Obama's real intentions are, this argument is extremely poorly assembled.

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I agree with Claire and Spastic...thats a stretch. Its called checks and balances...we have it. Why does the other side have to be sore losers. Liberals thought armageddon was coming with Bush...conservatives think armageddon is coming with obama.
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You know we chose to live in a democracy. Regardless of what we think is happening or not happening, regardless of where you live, we chose to have things run this way.
Scary thought isn't it.

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