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        02-12-2013, 08:59 AM
      #21
    Foal
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    Here's my last pair of mocs I made. They are eastern center seams. These came out ok for me. You may know there's a thin line between to tight and to loose and slipping around in them. These are decent. Maybe a tad to tight after they got wet and hardened up when the dried. I need to make another pair bigger so I can put a few layers of wool socks for winter time.



    I can't find any pics of my leggings . Only ones that they are covered down to my knees by my shirts. Of course they don't come up much higher than mid thigh anyway. Basically just leather tubes that cover my legs and ties at top that tie to my belt to hold them up. Then ties around my leg just below my knee.
    Yes I do know a little bit about moccasin making. I've made a few! I'll have to post pics on those too! But yeah that's a great pic of your moccasins and they look just fine.. yes.. one can walk on very slippery slopes in those buckskin moccasins! Looks like a nice weight for those too. Did you use an awl or glovers needles when you stitched those. My last trip to Joanne's fabrics turned up dry on the glovers needles.. I was bummed.. I will have to order more of those online now I guess.

    I've never made any leggings myself.. I've also never made a case for a gun like yours but I do have a big interest in making one of those sometime, too. I have one really huge thick deerskin and I'm sure I could screw that one up for moccasins by rinsing out way too much of the glues and having the skin end up 'mushy feeling'! In that case though a cover for a gun like yours with the really long dangling fringe would be sweet!

    So are you a part of american mountain guy or something like that? And are you close to Asheville NC? I have a friend there that goes to like lots of flint knapping things.. and bows and just all the primitive arts.

    Pleasure chatting! Thanks for posting the pics.
         
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        02-12-2013, 09:01 AM
      #22
    Yearling
    The coat is a replica of a coat that would have been worn around the revolution. Some call it a hunting frock, riflemans frock, caped hunting shirt, you name it. I wish I could claim the hunting pouch. It was a gift. I was getting ready to make one of my own and that showed up for my birthday thanks to my wife. I love it. It carries my fire kit, compass replica of one from 1750, and all my shot, powder and tools. I can pretty much take my whole gun apart in the woods if need be.
    The leggings were brand new when that pic was taken. They are a considerably darker color now. Dirt, mud, smoke , soot all add a nice earthy tone. :)
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        02-12-2013, 09:07 AM
      #23
    Foal
    Okay, that gives me a little information to go on when looking for a pattern or something. Thanks. Your wife has great taste.. wonderful gift a nice heavy duty hunting pouch like that. I think they're much nicer than brain tanned leather for the purpose.. even the brain tanned leathers.. one has to use just the right skin for the intended use or they just don't work!

    I really admire that you can use your belongings for actual hunting.. It's akin to having a tipi and never building a fire in it!
         
        02-12-2013, 09:19 AM
      #24
    Yearling
    I should say, the coat is not leather. It is a heavy linen which historically was the most common. However there are some surviving examples of buckskin frocks like that. As far as patterns look at crazy crow or track of the wolf. Both have alot of historical patterns.
    I'm not really a part of a reenacting group per say. I have just always loved history and not just the meamorizing dates type stuff. I wanted to know more. Like how did Daniel Boone go out and live in the woods and hunt deer for a year or two at a time. How did they start a fire with flint and steel and stuff like that. Now most of my camping and hunting is done with stuff similar to what they would have used back in the 1760-80 time frame. There's alot of hunting days I don't get anything but if it gets cold ill just start alittle camp fire with flint and steel and make some grits to take the chill off. I've gotten pretty good at stuff like that. Believe it or not I absolutely love hunting squirrel. If I get one ill clean it right there and cook it up over a fire and that will be my lunch. Really brings thing home for me on the survival thing.
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        02-12-2013, 09:42 AM
      #25
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    Cool stuff!!!
    I think it would freak our dogs out though, pretty sure they'd see it as something to destroy
    I had a rabbit skin coat once and it sort of moulted after a while - why was that?
    The same always happened to the fox brushes (tails) I had.
         
        02-12-2013, 09:44 AM
      #26
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by Fort fireman    
    I should say, the coat is not leather. It is a heavy linen which historically was the most common. However there are some surviving examples of buckskin frocks like that. As far as patterns look at crazy crow or track of the wolf. Both have alot of historical patterns.
    I'm not really a part of a reenacting group per say. I have just always loved history and not just the meamorizing dates type stuff. I wanted to know more. Like how did Daniel Boone go out and live in the woods and hunt deer for a year or two at a time. How did they start a fire with flint and steel and stuff like that. Now most of my camping and hunting is done with stuff similar to what they would have used back in the 1760-80 time frame. There's alot of hunting days I don't get anything but if it gets cold ill just start alittle camp fire with flint and steel and make some grits to take the chill off. I've gotten pretty good at stuff like that. Believe it or not I absolutely love hunting squirrel. If I get one ill clean it right there and cook it up over a fire and that will be my lunch. Really brings thing home for me on the survival thing.
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    That sounds very practical. And logical. I wish I knew how to start a fire with a flint and striker or bow drill. So the desire is there.. I guess I just have to want it enough to learn to do it on my own. My husband is from the city and really he has absolutely NO interest in my textile hobby here! It's too bad because otherwise we could get a lot done together! Oh well.. glad he tolerates the carnage..

    Interesting about your coat.. yes it does appear to look like deerskin. My maiden name actually means 'flax'.. and I do spin wool and knit and all but have never learned to make any linen and I have not a lot of desire to learn to weave! But boy I would bet that that coat you have on there is very fascinating. I've ordered beads from Crazy Crow in the past but haven't heard of the other one.. I have a book too that has some coats in it.. Evard Gibby wrote it.. the name escapes me now but I think there is some kind of deerskin hunting coat in it. Being a six footer and old.. lol.. I got my start from grandma from the old country, sewing so I will have to get some suitable skins together.. currently I am graining all of my collected deer hides. I'm not sure how many I collected this year alone but they filled up a 55 gallon drum and that was shorn, fleshed and salted. I probably have more than a dozen left to grain.. getting weak thinking about it but I'll get there.
         
        02-12-2013, 09:50 AM
      #27
    Yearling
    That sounds like a ton of work. Do you use the pressure washer to take the hair off to? Where do you get the brains for the tanning?
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        02-12-2013, 09:52 AM
      #28
    Foal
    One more question.. Do you barbeque those squirrels WITH their hair? Just curious. Was watching some survival show of these guys in some tropical place eating some kind of barbequed on a stick rodent.
    Here's a squirrel skin pic here.. I powerwashed it..
    Not sure if this link will work.. it's for my photobucket album, you might be interested to see the 'stuff' I've been working on.
    1braintanner's Library | Photobucket
         
        02-12-2013, 10:33 AM
      #29
    Yearling
    NO!!! I always skin the squirrel. I saw that on one if those shows as well. It takes a minute to skin a squirrel. I couldnt figure out why they would do that. I think I would have to be pretty **** hungry to not take an extra minute to skin something. I think that was a for tv dirt of thing.
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        02-12-2013, 10:47 AM
      #30
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by Fort fireman    
    That sounds like a ton of work. Do you use the pressure washer to take the hair off to? Where do you get the brains for the tanning?
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    Yes, it is.. just a ton. Called glutton for punishment.. gotta be me. I have actually grained the fresh skins but I just can't do it reliably enough, so I just use a beam and wet scrape. I have a really good heavy fleshing bar that I use and I'm shearing the hides with a great hd oster animal shears and really I just soak my skins ONLY if they need to be rehydrated at all. Any more than that and things can quickly out of hand and I just don't care to work on any skins that have gone afoul. Just goofing around, and just trying to see what exactly I could do with the freshest of deerskins I did pretty near grain this entire little button buck.. I attained it from a road kill right up the street from our home. I don't hunt. I started this tanning thing when I inadvertently caused the death of some young goats. I put them in the same pasture as some sheep and a larger wether goat and they got 'bashed' to death.. so I felt terribly guilty and vowed right then that I'd use their remains to make something with purpose.. so fed the dogs the meat and got online and started searching how to tan hides and skins.. lol.. and prayer.. I think the power of the prayer I said over it's remains were way more stronger than I could have ever imagined. Come a long way since then. Maybe close to a dozen years ago now. Also started out with a smaller gas powerwasher direct drive.. and bought two more.. this last machine is a belt drive and commercial and should last me forever! This pic here is a creepy one for sure but just to give you an idea.., hahaha.. probably think.. man, that woman's clearly off her rocker.. lol..
    Should post the moccasin picture first.. lol..

    This is the grained deer skin right on the deer pic.. Kind of an awful picture but one that is helpful to those that MIGHT want to actually do some of the hard work involved in tanning their skins. Sorry if this is offensive to some but I assure you the meat and skin weren't discarded.. they were put to good use!
         

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