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PETA and Human Milk????????????

So I heard this on the news a couple days PETA serious??? i would NEVER consider consuming human milk. I have been in 1000+ dairy operations before. The cows are brought in to the parlor for milking and then set back outside to be rotated back up in 12 hours. The sick animals are segragated and treated... i dont find this process cruel by any means. But that is JMO....

Mama's milk ice cream cone, anyone?By JOHN CURRAN – 14 hours ago
Associated Press

WATERBURY, Vt. (AP) — Mooove over, Holsteins. PETA wants world-famous Ben & Jerry's Homemade Ice Cream to tap nursing moms, rather than cows, for the milk used in its ice cream.

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals is asking the ice cream maker to begin using breast milk in its products instead of cow's milk, saying it would reduce the suffering of cows and calves and give ice cream lovers a healthier product.

The idea got a cool reception Thursday from Ben & Jerry's officials, the company's customers and even La Leche League International, the world's oldest breast-feeding support organization, which promotes the practice — for babies, anyway.

PETA wrote a letter to company founders Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield on Tuesday, telling them cow's milk is hazardous and that milking them is cruel.

"If Ben and Jerry's replaced the cow's milk in its ice cream with breast milk, your customers — and cows — would reap the benefits," wrote Tracy Reiman, executive vice president of the animal rights advocacy group. She said dairy products have been linked to juvenile diabetes, allergies and obesity.

Ashley Byrne, a campaign coordinator for PETA, acknowledged the implausibility of substituting breast milk for cow's milk, but said it's no stranger than humans consuming the milk of another species.

"We're aware this idea is somewhat absurd, and that putting it into practice is a stretch. At the time same, it's pretty absurd for us to be drinking the milk of cows," she said.

It takes about 12 pounds — or 1 1/2 gallons of milk — to make a gallon of ice cream. Ben & Jerry's, which gets its milk exclusively from Vermont cows, won't say how much milk it uses or how much ice cream it sells.

As a standardized product under federal regulations, ice cream must be made with milk from healthy cows. Ice cream made from goat's milk, for example, would have to be labeled as such.

Presumably, so would mother's milk ice cream.

To Ben & Jerry's, the idea is udderly ridiculous.

"We applaud PETA's novel approach to bringing attention to an issue, but we believe a mother's milk is best used for her child," spokesman Sean Greenwood said in an e-mail. He didn't respond to requests for an interview.

Leon Berthiaume, general manager of the St. Albans Cooperative Creamery, which provides milk products to Ben & Jerry's, called the dairy products "among the safest in the world."

"Milk from cows has long-term health benefits and has been proven to be safe and healthy and an important part of the American diet for generations," he said. "I'm not ready to make that change."

Cow's milk and mother's milk aren't interchangeable, according to La Leche spokeswoman Jane Crouse, who says breast milk is a dynamic substance that's different with each woman and each child and might have difficulty being processed into ice cream.

Then there's the question of who would provide the milk, and whether they'd be paid.

"Some women feel compelled to donate milk to a milk bank for adopted babies, or for someone who's ill or unable to breast feed. There's plenty of anecdotal evidence about sisters who nurse each others' babies. There's a population of women very willing to share their milk. Whether there's enough to do it for a commercial entity, who can say?" she said.

At the Ben & Jerry's factory in Waterbury, consumers gave a collective "Ehttp://www" to the idea Thursday.

"It's kind of creepy," said Jeff Waugh, 42, of Dayton, Ohio.

"I think it's a little nutty," said the Rev. Roger Wooton, 83, of Malden, Mass., finishing up a cup of Heath Bar Crunch.

"How would they get all that milk?" said his wife, Jane Wooton, 77.

Jen Wahlbrink, 34, of Phoenix, who breast-fed her 11-month-old son, Cameron, said she wouldn't touch ice cream made from mother's milk. She remembers her nursing days — and not that fondly.

"The (breast) pumps just weren't that much fun. You really do feel like a cow," she said, cradling her son in her hands.

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post #2 of 37 Old 09-26-2008, 08:09 AM
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That is so gross! I would never buy B & J's again if they did use human milk, gag!!!
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PETA is SERIOUSLY out of control!

I'm all for animal rights, to an extent. In my mind, cows are bred and essentially here for our own purposes. If they don't provide us with milk, or meat or hide, what other use is there, other than adding to the global warming?

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Originally Posted by 3neighs
Pffffffttttttt! Buahahahaha... that is the best smiley!!!!

Just think about all the diseases that humans carry that are transferrible through bodily fluids.....AAAAAACKKKK!!!

I have to believe that it is a publicity stunt. Can you imagine women getting run through a dairy opperation?!?! Imagine the breeding program!!!

You have to understand that my imagination is very cartoon-like and I see women with ear tags standing around with big silver suction pumps on their breasts chatting and complaining....It's quite funny in my mind!!!!

LMAO.... I just thought of that song.... Milkshake!!!

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Ugh, PETA. I'm all for animal rights. I think animal rights organizations can be great. But when you look into Peta's campaigns they're usually so far fetched and ridiculous they're incredibly ineffective! And aren't they all for living with NO pets and allowing all animals to live naturally?

Anyways, ew, human milk ice cream? that sounds gross.... No thanks!
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Originally Posted by Dumas'_Grrrl
Originally Posted by 3neighs

You have to understand that my imagination is very cartoon-like and I see women with ear tags standing around with big silver suction pumps on their breasts chatting and complaining....It's quite funny in my mind!!!!

I saw this and laughed mt big behind off.

You see, PETA had long ago decided that milking cows is cruel. Because you are taking the milk from the calf - NOT TRUE. WTH do they think the calf eats? Chocolate chip cookies? Duh. Dairy cows make waaaaay more milk than the calf needs. That's the whole point. You can't get milk without a calf being born .... I mean, look at beef cows. They make just enough for their baby. Their food energy goes into bulk. With dairy cows, that food goes into milk.

Remember folks, these PETA people are the ones who no longer want you to have pets or ride horses!!

I have no patience whatsoever for the fruit loops at PETA. Everything I have seen them put out in the last fifteen years or so is either misinformation, or a flat out lie.

Pretty soon they'll claim we shouldn't have house plants, or raise a garden because it's cruel and inhuman to ferns and broccoli. :roll: :roll:

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Ya Ive dealt with PETA at shows before... Once i was told that my horse was 'sad" because she was laying down in her stall. Umm no she had a long day and is feeling comfortable and not scared therefore she is resting...

Also when I was in 4-H I used to show beef. At nights we would take them out of the barns and tie them outside. They were fully beded, had hay, and water overnight... just a chance for fresh air. Anyhows when i was the older one in the group I along with other kids from different counties would have to night watch because PETA people would untie the animals... Yes mine did one year (I wasnt on watch that night) and when you have hundreds of cattle tied up outside it was hard to find my herford heifer...they ALL look the basically the PETA would simply unhalter or unhook the lead and the cattle start running, you catch the animal at tie it where ever. I mean it makes total sense to let farm animals go in city...they know how to use cross walks and We also had to walk the other barns to check for people.

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But there won't be enough milk for OUR babies..... and then .... good babies gone bad! Oh no!

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If someone wants to produce breast milk and someone else wants to buy it I think they're free to do it (if it doesn't hobble a feeding of a baby).

But personally I couldn't ever drink/eat anything which would contain human milk.

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