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post #11 of 106 Old 01-25-2010, 03:06 PM
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^^^ Thank you. I believe that when the breed was being developed dogs that showed aggression towards humans were culled. I can't remember my source though....

That said I still don't think your average person should own them due to their potential for damage if they do "snap". But I also don't think that most of the people that own labs should own them either because they are rarely taken care of correctly. I'm a little bit anal when it comes to dog ownership.
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^^^ Thank you. I believe that when the breed was being developed dogs that showed aggression towards humans were culled. I can't remember my source though....
I too can not name the actual name of the books or articles I have read on the subject. But I do know that is true. They were bred to be people friendly dogs.
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Being euthanized is not a horrible thing really! There are lots of good dogs that need homes. As much as I love my pibble (and the one I had before her) they are for sure not the dog for everyone (they require an owner that is truly responsible because everyone is just drooling to blame them for every bad thing that happens) and I would rather they be euthanized than end up in the wrong hands.

Sad as it is.
I think you missunderstood. The horrible part is the fact that these dogs are losing their lives bc of their owners stupidity. I have seen many dogs be out down so I know exactly how that works. I do not know how the human brain works in order for someone to think that a dog is disposable.

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I think you missunderstood. The horrible part is the fact that these dogs are losing their lives bc of their owners stupidity. I have seen many dogs be out down so I know exactly how that works. I do not know how the human brain works in order for someone to think that a dog is disposable.

Lots of irresponsible people in the world. That simple! People think everything is disposable. And heck, free dogs are every where so why bother taking these dogs when you can get a new dog when you get to the new place, etc.

It is impossible for people who truly care to understand the brain of those who do not.

The bottom line is - those of us who care but are stuck with the responsibility of disposing of the problems caused by those who did not can need to realize that we are not the problem (euthanizing) we are solving a problem made by someone else.
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[QUOTE=MN Tigerstripes;532649[/QUOTE]

very true they are not for everyone and not everyone is capable of owning one. not to mention they are very smart, u always have to give them something to do or think about, to work their mind. i think they tend to go bad too when people get them and do nothing with them, they were originally bred to be working dogs, not to just sit in ur apt and look pretty! mine loves it when we play fetch with his toy, he never gets tired. we go and hide it for him too so he can go find it.

ive learned too they they are a very much of an owner pleasing animal, if they love u theyll do anything just like a TB, guess thats why i have both lol and also that if u get mad at them they feel it, i dont even have to raise my voice at Zeus if he does anything if my tone changes or i give him a certain look he knows and he pouts and tries to apologize to no end until i forgive him, he'll even start crying

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I'm a little bit anal when it comes to dog ownership.
Me too. I hate when an owner says their dog is to hyper so they keep it penned up, and when they let it out and it's still hyper they get mad and yell at it. It's not the dogs fault they aren't getting the excersize and stimulation they need to rid themselves of excess energy. They have ne daily interaction with the dog yet they expect the dog to listen to their commands and be calm.

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I am not against dog breeds, but you have to remember what they were bred for. I personally would never have one around my kids. They are a dominate and aggressive breed.
Pit bulls were originally bred to bait bulls, not fight other dogs. The pit bulls of today are not being bred as fighting animals (except by certain unsavory characters) but as pets and show dogs. They're what's considered a performance breed now, not a hunting/fighting one.

Great Danes were originally bred to hunt boars, but no one is screaming about the evil Danes hunting and eating their children. Danes are considered sight hounds as well as being a working breed. Although the only thing my Dane works at is sleeping as much as possible!

Pitties have gotten a bad rap because of all the hysteria and hype surrounding them. What most people don't know is that even dogs used in the fighting rings can be rehabbed and become wonderful pets. Not all of them certainly, but a good number.

What something was originally bred for and what they're being bred for today is usually complete polar opposites.
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Yes I am against banning them.
My german shepherd pup got attacked by a pit bull once.
And he plays with his buddy Spot, a Pit Bull, just whenever he can.

It's a matter of training and properly socializing I think.
Some people have pit bulls that should not have them..

The pit bull that attacked my dog Scout clearly was not with the right owner.
She was a lady who didn't even grab her dog back, someone else did that who was at the dogpark at the same time.
All she could do was hold her hands in front of her mouth and go all "Sorry!"
The dog simply didn't listen to her at all..

Are pit bulls bad dogs now?
I don't think so.
Like I said, punish the deed, not the breed.
It's the owners that need to get a good idea of what they're going into.
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agreed Speed Racer. Take the poodle for example. IT's original purpose was a water retrieving dog. Now it's been bred down to lap size and is used mainly as a companion. I would love to get a pair of standard poodles and use them as duck dogs. Oh to see the other hunters faces!

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They are actually great with children and have the nick name of "nanny dog". They also have better temperments than a lot of "family" dogs. You do have to be careful with them around other animals because they do have natural aggression towards other animals. But they have no natural aggression towards humans.

When the family Jack Russell attacks someone it's not likely to rip out thier throut and kill them. The reason so many pitbulls get in trouble isn't that they are aggressive it's that they are big enough to really hurt someone. My 30 lb border collie would be much easier to fight off than a 100 lb pitbull. I don't see that they are really much of a problem though. The police and government have other things to worry about than regulating dog laws. Very very few dogs attack people and very very few of those that attack seriously injure people. I would NOT have a pitbull around my kids untill they outwieghed it considerably. It's not really about the odds it's about what's at stake.

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