A saddle arrived in the mail today from the US and the box was a shambles. I highly doubt it was sent in this condition. The seller (Drifting from HP) had wisely put my name and address in multiple places in case this happened. Never in twenty years of shipping or receiving saddles has the box arrived in this deplorable condition. It looks like someone took a knife to it in a few places. One corner was royally bashed in so I'll have to check to see that the tree is ok. Other than that the saddle is fine.