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        07-11-2012, 04:52 PM
      #51
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    Originally Posted by northwesten    
    This not making any sense at all other than pretty much tiring to insult and offend other people. I mean what are you talking about been moral?
    Agree. I am clueless what he means...
         
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        07-11-2012, 04:58 PM
      #52
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    Originally Posted by Golden Horse    

    All I can say is that those of you who get your main information feed from Fox news, should expand your viewing, we in the UK realized a long time ago that any Murdoch mouthpiece is mainly set up to push only his agenda and has little or no interest in fair and balanced reporting.
    I don't disagree with that, but what is your point? The exact same thing can be said on the opposite side of the fence about CBS, ABC, NBC, NPR, etc.

    Why not just say one shouldn't get their main information from a single biased source?
         
        07-11-2012, 05:04 PM
      #53
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by Faceman    
    That's what I thought too, until people started making anti-American comments.
    Making me read back and quickly find something that was anti-american... Nope don't see it.. All I see talking about the political culture! Which too be honest we were given our views of political culture but it was NOT anti american.

    So looks like someone got real defensive when you didn't need to be most of all slapping labels on country's like socialism. Well maybe not you but someone was which I can't remember atm.
         
        07-11-2012, 05:34 PM
      #54
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    Originally Posted by Faceman    
    I don't disagree with that, but what is your point?
    Sorry was I not clear, Murdoch I am familiar with, he has been in bed with the British Government for years, he follows his own agenda, I have seen Fox News, DH seems to find it entertaining *shrugs*

    I'm afraid I an not up on what of the other channels give what spin, so I could not comment, I will take your point that there is no unbiased reporting in the US to heart.

    I am going to bow out before I get into trouble here
         
        07-11-2012, 05:59 PM
      #55
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by northwesten    
    This not making any sense at all other than pretty much tiring to insult and offend other people. I mean what are you talking about been moral?
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Faceman    
    Agree. I am clueless what he means...

    It's not a petty insult. People on the "far left" and "far right" or "zealots", if you will, have core beliefs. Right or wrong. They have beliefs that drive them and they are passionate about. Passionate people are who drive politics and governments. Moderates generally have no principles with which they stand. I'm not so sure what's so confusing about that. Especially for someone as educated and intelligent as faceman.
         
        07-11-2012, 08:16 PM
      #56
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    I am a centrist, and proud of it.

    No one here will make the mistake of saying I don't have strong opinions, though. It just means we have the ability of seeing both sides of an argument and then take a stance. Being centrist also means I can be passionately liberal on one issue but quite conservative on another.

    This does NOT mean I have no moral fiber. Far from it. I believe that if one can ONLY see the extremes of any situation, with no exceptions, then they are the deluded ones.
         
        07-11-2012, 08:58 PM
      #57
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    Originally Posted by Bearkiller    
    It's not a petty insult. People on the "far left" and "far right" or "zealots", if you will, have core beliefs. Right or wrong. They have beliefs that drive them and they are passionate about. Passionate people are who drive politics and governments. Moderates generally have no principles with which they stand. I'm not so sure what's so confusing about that. Especially for someone as educated and intelligent as faceman.
    "Voters who describe themselves as centrist often mean that they are moderate in their political views, advocating neither extreme left-wing politics nor right-wing politics."

    Really? All I am going to say that is a complete Rubbish! I am a moderate and I pretty dam proud of it. Too say people of no Moral is silly and absurd which you have no bases at all to come from period!

    So my last comment still stands! Completely baseless. Anyhow better been a moderate than been a sheep that's blind just following the crowed!


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    Originally Posted by Allison Finch    
    I am a centrist, and proud of it.

    No one here will make the mistake of saying I don't have strong opinions, though. It just means we have the ability of seeing both sides of an argument and then take a stance. Being centrist also means I can be passionately liberal on one issue but quite conservative on another.

    This does NOT mean I have no moral fiber. Far from it. I believe that if one can ONLY see the extremes of any situation, with no exceptions, then they are the deluded ones.
    100% agree
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        07-11-2012, 09:46 PM
      #58
    Weanling
    One of the vets at my hospital is from Canada. Every 2 years she has to renew her visa prove that she is not taking a job away from a qualified american veterinarian. Once her husband quit his job and lost his visa so she had to go back home until he got another one. She has since divorced and got a specialty degree in acupuncture so hopefully that will make it easier for her to get a visa. She said if she wanted to get her green card the owner of the hospital would have to open her position to anybody else that wanted to apply for a certain amount of time and if no one came along she could keep her job.
         

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