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    10-23-2010, 11:51 PM
  #21
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Ray MacDonald    
I agree! And science HAS proven that bullied gay people are more likely than non gay people being bullied to commit suicide.
I wonder why that is? Why would a gay person being bullied be more likely to comit suicid than any other person?
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    10-23-2010, 11:57 PM
  #22
Yearling
I don't have a problem with gay people, one of my moms best friends is gay, he is a great family friend. I have a problem with political correctness.

If there is already an anti-bully week why are the gays not included? Why do the gays only get one day? Or do the gays get one week AND their own special day?

I don't agree with homosexuality. But if that is how you live, it is not my place to judge. I wont stand up for it, and I'm not going to give you grief over it.
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    10-24-2010, 02:15 AM
  #23
Started
Then why are you posting here when it was clearly explained in the OP that I was not looking to "offend anyone or spark any debates"?
     
    10-24-2010, 02:15 AM
  #24
Trained
The theory is because -most- individuals who are bullied deal with it at school. They go home and have the support of their parents. Yes, they still may commit suicide. However they normally have some sort of support from their families.

With some gay teens, they receive bullying both from their peers but also a lack of support from their families. This lack of any support structure increases feelings of hopelessness and increases risk for suicide.

You don't have to support homosexuality. That is your right. You don't have to wear purple. But you must admit that there's nothing wrong with anyone else raising awareness even if it is for one group of people. (As I mentioned, this does not mean that anyone is being placed above another). You must admit that a gay person being bullied is just as big of a problem as a straight individual being bullied.

If it helps save lives, what does it matter if they get 24 hours of 'special' awareness? I can tell you that the purple and it gets better movement have helped teens. So why worry about if it's politically correct or not if it helps kids?
     
    10-24-2010, 02:17 AM
  #25
Trained
Self-Injury Awareness Day - 1 Mar
Eating Disorders Week - 5-14 Feb
International Women's Day - 8 Mar
Disability (ADA) Awareness Day - 26 Jul
Mental Illness Awareness Week - 5-11 Oct 2008


Those are an example of some more 'special' days of groups who are targets of bullying regardless of sexual orientation or identity.

I'm curious. Do you disagree with these as well?
     
    10-24-2010, 10:37 AM
  #26
Green Broke
Great post Spastic_Dove!

I'm just curios and you don't have to answer this if you don't want to, Are you LGBT straight?
     
    10-24-2010, 12:28 PM
  #27
Yearling
This whole thing is a nice suggestion and all. But I can't help but see it as A bunch of big time gay rights extremist(the ones working for the media w/ lots $$$'s) using these kids to make a point. A political statement. That's how I see it, and to be honest it bothers me.

We don't need six thousand different days for each reason a kid has been bullied. There arent enough days in the year. It all falls under anti bullying, wich needs to be made a daily thing, wether the bully is a school kid, teacher, principle, bus driver, some random guy on the street, or the kids parants. And if a kid commited suicide because of bullying, more than likely, all of the above are responsible.

Billy Lucas was a nice kid, I would have loved to gotten to know him better, but the other forum went and ban him. There was no PROOF that he was gay, he never dated a guy, he never told anyone that he was. People just assumed he was, and spat gay comments in his face. He didnt have a father and his mom hated him. He commited suicide after he and his mom got into a fight. He was completely socially awkword and would go the extra mile just to try and fit in, which is WHY people bullied him. I have a feeling his death is far more related to his home life than anything else. And not one adult in school tryed to help him. His neighbors claimed to be completely helpless.
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    10-24-2010, 01:38 PM
  #28
Trained
Of course anti-bullying should be an every day thing. There's no doubt about that.
These kids are a point. A point that bullying should not be tolerated. A point that teens need a support system and they need some sort of hope in order to get through he day. It's a point that no one should be harassed for ANY reason.
That's not a political agenda or extremist view. I have yet to see any of these teens exploited. Were they alive, knowing that people out there supported them it would have acted in a positive manner, not a negative one.

You do not have to participate. There's enough days in the year where if people want to support something they feel strongly about a bit extra, let them. It's not hurting anyone. If you don't want to participate that's fine. But you are the one who came and posted a anti-purple comment. If you don't wear purple I won't say anything to you. But if you tell people who are participating in any sort of similar event that it's a waste/theyre treating x group 'special' etc that's where these 'debates' get started.

I still don't see anything about any of these mentioned movements that are extremist. If you are politically aware, you can decide what movements deserve support and which ones are for personal gains.

Any political statement that was being made is for equal rights, awareness, and peer support. Yes that takes singling out a minority group at this point. Making them 'special' because they are the ones being otherwise ignored. It's not hurting anyone.
The fact of the matter is Billy died gay or not. He still received no help. He still had no support. And any agenda that was using these suicides in order to prove a point is doing a good job of making people aware of bullying. They are making sure you see what can happen with bullying.

Again, nothing with any sort of negative effects like you are worried about.
If you don't agree with it, continue to not participate. But give those who do participate the same courtesy to do it without hearing how they are an extremist being manipulated by some extremist gay group.


Ray -- I'm lgbt but the closest thing I identify to is pansexual. (No I don't sleep with pans). Basically as far as dating/romance gender is irrelevant to me. I can fall in love with girls, boys, or anywhere else along the gender identity spectrum. =) Gender is the least of my concerns.
     
    10-24-2010, 01:51 PM
  #29
Banned
I don't support gays but I hate bullying. I'm not doing to go around being butt about it. Purple?
     
    10-24-2010, 02:48 PM
  #30
Trained
Cowgirl, a few days ago there was a 'wear purple'/spirit day. It was an anti-bullying, show support for the lgbt teens and community type thing.
     

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