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post #61 of 65 Old 10-26-2010, 04:49 PM
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Marriage is an institution created by the church, yes. However if gay marriage gets passed it will legally be a marriage.
You can think of it what you want though.
But the bible also says slaves are okay and you can marry your 10 year old cousin.

The actual quote you're thinking of is that a man should not lay with a man as he does a woman for it is an abomination. I already detailed why I think quoting that is out of context considering the book it comes from.


PS: Cowgirl: Would you mind editing your posts before you submit them? I have a hard time understanding what you mean a lot of the time.

ETA: Wanted to add that once again, you're welcome to your interpretation of the bible just as we are. You may very well be right, but I strongly believe otherwise as I'm sure you disagree with me. That's exactly why I added at my last post that the best bet is to just love one another and then let whatever God there is do the judgement. :)

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post #62 of 65 Old 10-26-2010, 05:20 PM
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Marriage is an institution created by the church, yes. However if gay marriage gets passed it will legally be a marriage.
You can think of it what you want though.
But the bible also says slaves are okay and you can marry your 10 year old cousin.

The actual quote you're thinking of is that a man should not lay with a man as he does a woman for it is an abomination. I already detailed why I think quoting that is out of context considering the book it comes from.


PS: Cowgirl: Would you mind editing your posts before you submit them? I have a hard time understanding what you mean a lot of the time.

ETA: Wanted to add that once again, you're welcome to your interpretation of the bible just as we are. You may very well be right, but I strongly believe otherwise as I'm sure you disagree with me. That's exactly why I added at my last post that the best bet is to just love one another and then let whatever God there is do the judgement. :)
Like I said before, ''Its dulling my nerves."
I never read the part of the Bible when it says, thy should be okay with marring my cousin.
Back in the day they married, young! Sorry but the Bible is a strong topic for me, so I take God for real.
1 Corinthians 6:9 (NIV) - "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers ..." - Biblia.com
Leviticus 18:22 (NIV) - "?Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable." - Biblia.com
So if you deicde to talk about the Bible and gays, I hope you have fact.
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Those are exactly the scriptures I was talking about. My point was not that they don't exist, but that many people choose to quote the scriptures as their reasonings but only pick and choose which ones to quote.

I do have fats, Cowgirl. I grew up Catholic. Went to Catholic school. I still currently discuss these topics with pastors and religious leaders from other religions. I'm not blindly being anti bible or something.

I read the post about you saying it's 'dulling your nerves' so I wasn't expecting you to be posting on here anymore.

Ray asked why people said the bible was anti gays. I gave the reasoning as well as my opinions of why it was an invalid argument but also admitted that no human would be able to know for sure.
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post #64 of 65 Old 10-26-2010, 08:09 PM
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Also:

"She really is my sister, the daughter of my father though not of my mother; and she became my wife." (Gen 20:12)

"...so both of Lot's daughters became pregnant by their father." (Gen 19:36)

"Some time later Abraham was told, 'Milcah is also a mother; she has borne sons to your brother Nahor: Uz the firstborn, Buz his brother, Kemuel (the father of Aram), Kesed, Hazo, Pildash, Jidlaph and Bethuel.' Bethuel became the father of Rebekah." (Gen 22:20-23)


It was honestly very common practice then and also in recent history. Things just change with the times and I was describing my annoyance when people use scriptures and say "YOU MUST OBEY" but only obey some scriptures while ignoring others.
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post #65 of 65 Old 10-28-2010, 05:49 PM
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Thats not creepy or anything.... LOL I agree with you! Even if you look back 100 or so years and then now.. A LOT has changed..

Horses are scared of two things... Things that move and things that don't.
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