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        04-15-2013, 09:27 AM
      #91
    Green Broke
    Wuthering Heights by Emily Bronte is a good example of a book full of run-on sentences... I just finished it for the 2nd time. It took me awhile to adjust to reading it due to the writing style, but it is a good read.

    I have a couple of co-workers who are dyslexic and have learned how to write again through working on it with diligence. They got tired of being made fun of when they were younger and that drove them to do better rather than fetal up in a shell. I know that isn't always the case with ridicule and would prefer to encourage with positive more so than negative reinforcement.
         
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        04-16-2013, 04:24 PM
      #92
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by Andrew;
    Donít worry, for many years, throughout my school years from year three to year twelve I had given up. It wasnít that I didnít want to succeed, it was that I believed it was impossible for me to do so. I had been taught that I was dumb and taught to teach myself that I was dumb, and it is one of the things that I still hold bitter resentment towards my teachers for. It was the influence of others; one, the guy who taught me to deal with horses, and another well after I had left school that convinced me that perhaps I wasnít so stupid after all.
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    Originally Posted by Andrew;
    If you are there encouraging your son you are already giving him the basis from which to succeed, it might just take him a little longer, or he may have to find a way out of the ordinary to get there; but you telling him he can do it even if he thinks he canít will be the best help he can get.
    As for the reading learning to write, well it helped me, probably not so much in the spelling department, but in other ways. What helped me a little with spelling though is learning grammatical rules I after E except after C for example and learning to assign my own consistent system for understanding the letters and their place in words, that one is my own language. From there it has been a long and slow struggle to learn to associate the correct pronunciation to words. In my head, the word I read may sound and look entirely different to how it actually sounds and looks, but through context and use of a dictionary, and strangely enough being forced to learn Latin roots in high school, I have learned to associate the correct meaning to my version of the word. This is the reason why I found being forced to read aloud in class in school so painful, I just couldnít do it, is sounded like a foreign language to everyone else in the class, to me it made sense, it didnít to anyone else. From there it is a matter of learning the English equivalent to the word in my language.
    I donít know if that makes any sense. Anyway, just believing in your son and telling him he can get through it when he thinks he canít will be a huge help to him.
    Andrew, thank you. That was very nice to hear. He too was treated as stupid, but when I spoke with the teachers I found out he had them wrapped around his little finger. Stupid, is he? It sure provided a lot of humour at the dinner table.

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    Originally Posted by Endiku    
    If you know what to research, there really are a LOT of resources readily available. I recently stumbled upon a forum for dyscaculates that has vast amounts of knowledge that I have found to be helpful for my dyscaculia, as well as my dsylexia. I cannot link it because of HF rules, but could PM it to anyone interested, or you can just type in Dyscaculia forum. Dyslexia forum is great as well.

    As it turns out, there are many different ways to learn, just like there are many types of people. It is foolish of us to think that every person will learn the same. Some are visual, some are visual, some are kinetic, some are all three. And then there are some of us that are extra special, and have a totally unresearched way of learning.

    For example, I tend to believe that I am a synesthete. If you do not know what this is, wikipedia has a pretty sound definition. Because I use synesthesia to learn, I have integrated color into becoming a VERY large part of my learning. Every shade represents something different from me, and I can literally 'feel' and 'taste' a word when a color is linked to it. It sounds rediculous, I know. I had been using techniques that are common to synesthetes for years before knowing the proper term for it though, and once I realized that I just might be synesthetic, I began to research it myself and 'experiment.' As it turns out, using this new knowledge of my possible gift has helped me TREMENDOUSLY in the past year or two.

    Northernmama, perhaps your son has one of these, as we dyslexics and dylcaculics call them, "hidden talents." These hidden talents are very complex sometimes, and hard to discover, but I have come to realize that many of use do have them. Its quite remarkable actually, to find that there is more to us than what first meets the eye.
    Thanks to you too Endiku. Yes, I have researched to death. There is an International Dyslexia Organization, did you know? We have a branch in Ontario and they were/are great for support and info and new info. There is definitely a lot out there and the IDO is just a small part. We did try to find his learning forte, but still looking... not colours, not touch, not really reading, auditory is about the best so far we've found... I'm thinking its going to be something visual, but just haven't found the right area of visuality (is that a word?).

    As for correcting people -- I hear you. I used to correct people all the time. I've learned that there is a right way, a wrong way, a right time, a wrong time... Young kids under the age of 7 are the easiest to help! Teens are dang near impossible for the most part and adults -- well, they tend to be touch and go! Mostly I let them go It still grates on my nerves though.
         
        04-16-2013, 07:04 PM
      #93
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    N MAMA - some years ago there was a TV documentary called "Why Men Don't Iron."

    It was very interesting on how male and female brains are wired very differently.

    A high school took part in one of the episodes and pupils were made to sit boy/girl.
    The girls stopped the boys messing around and the boys stopped the girls from chatting.

    Teacher were told to give tests in every lesson, this offered a challenge to the boys and most important was to use graphs or drawings to explain things becaue the boys learnt better that way.

    Exam results for the boys (which were generally lower than the girls) went well over 50% higher.

    Might be the way to go with your lad.
         
        04-16-2013, 07:18 PM
      #94
    Trained
    Yes, Foxhunter - he is a very 3D thinker just like his Dad. He's great at drafting and physics.

    I think the line delineating how boys and girls think differently is not as clear as it once was due to the changes in upbringing at a very early age. More important is that each individual learns best in a different way. So our society needs to teach in a manner that benefits the greatest percentage even though some may be bored. We just can't teach individually and we can't teach the boys one way and the girls another.

    It's been interesting to hear how even teachers can't figure out how to place commas. I think that teachers don't know sentence components and sentence structure themselves, therefore it is not getting taught. No consistency either is resulting in students getting frustrated.

    I thought it was just in my area because we are in such a backwards town. I guess it's everywhere.
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