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        04-13-2013, 12:40 PM
      #31
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    Why does it say you instead of "U"? Honest I did type the letter, not the word. Must be an auto correct.
         
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        04-13-2013, 12:47 PM
      #32
    Green Broke
    I was never very good in English classes in high school. I didn't care what nouns, verbs, adjectives, or adverbs were or used for. I knew I wasn't going to be a writer or editor or such. History wasn't a good subject either. I usually only got C's in them, with a couple D's.

    My brain was wired for math and science. I could ace those classes without studying. My senior year I was taking college algebra but I needed to have geometry done first. They allowed me to take both at the same time because I did well so far. I hardly ever took any notes in class, didn't study but I got A's.

    Even with my dislike and poor grades, I feel that I do pretty well. When I see posts that are run-on and have poor punctuation, I get irritated too. Is it really THAT difficult to even try?

    Run-ons and lack of punctuation are one thing. Spelling is another issue. Granted, there are people from other countries and English isn't their first language. However, to those that it is their first language, most computers and cellphones have spell checker or autocorrect.

    Ok, my rant over 😳
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        04-13-2013, 01:56 PM
      #33
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Vidaloco    
    Why does it say you instead of "U"? Honest I did type the letter, not the word. Must be an auto correct.
    I've notice that happening too. An autocorrect in the forum or in the Internet somewhere.
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        04-13-2013, 02:35 PM
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    English is not an easy subject to learn, so many difficult spellings and sounds (especially if spelled correctly not the US way!)

    There has been much change in the meaning of words.
    I use to compete on a horse called Gay Boy. I thought that was a lovely name - which it was in the original meaning of gay.

    I caused quite a lot of consternation and curiosity when in the US and asked a butcher for a joint (roast) and remarked when in a restaurant, "I'm going out for a fag!" (Cigarette)

    I try to not correct youngsters I am around all the time. It can alienate them but it does grate when you keep getting "I were going." or "We was going."

    Grammar does matter. I would always employ someone who spoke correctly over someone who didn't as long as both were capable.

    I do not know if any of you watch Super Nanny but Jo Frost, brilliant with not only children but people too, would not be employed by me because of her bad grammar. (Not that she would ever want a fixed job.)
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        04-13-2013, 03:06 PM
      #35
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Vidaloco    
    Why does it say you instead of "U"? Honest I did type the letter, not the word. Must be an auto correct.

    That is because there is software in place here to combat the ubiquitous use of textspeak. Sometimes, it backfires and makes us have funny results.
         
        04-13-2013, 03:08 PM
      #36
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    Anyone ever read that book that came out a few years ago titled:

    Eats, Shoots, and Leaves.

    The title was referring to the vast difference between these two sentences:




    The Giant Panda eats shoots and leaves.

    The Giant Panda eats, shoots, and leaves.
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        04-13-2013, 03:10 PM
      #37
    Trained
    Ode to My Spell Checker (author unknown)

    Eye have a spelling checker, it came with my pea sea
    It plainly marks four my revue miss steaks eye kin knot sea.
    Eye strike a quay and type a word and weight for it to say
    Weather eye yam wrong oar write, it shows me strait a weigh.
    As soon as a mist ache is maid it nose bee fore two long
    And eye can put the error rite its rare lea ever wrong.
    Eye have run this poem threw it I'm shore your pleased to no
    Its letter perfect awl the way, my checker told me sew.
         
        04-13-2013, 05:09 PM
      #38
    Trained
    There was one school exercise that "got my attention" w respect to the value of writing skills, and I never forgot it. Like muppet, I am a bit afraid to write it out b/c of the grammar nazis afoot. Anyway, the teacher named one of two or three simple tasks (e.g., properly fold a letter and stuff it in an envelope), and each student had to write "how to" instructions for one of the given tasks, and do so in class directly after it was assigned. Being a kid at the time, my initial response was, "can it get any more boring than this?". During the next class he (the teacher) read each set of directions out loud and tried to perform each task according to the individual set of directions before him. It was really funny! He was unable to complete any of the given tasks correctly by following any of the written directions he had recieved. It took him all of two or so hours to "teach" a group of kids the importance of written communcation skills -and have them laughing whilst he was at it. The public school system does not need more money, it needs better teachers and a lot more discipline.
         
        04-13-2013, 05:12 PM
      #39
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Missy May    
    The public school system does not need more money, it needs better teachers and a lot more discipline.
    Gets my vote
         
        04-13-2013, 05:58 PM
      #40
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by Missy May    
    The public school system does not need more money, it needs better teachers and a lot more discipline.
    I disagree. Ever heard the saying, "You get what you pay for"? If teachers don't have a competitive salary, you won't get better teachers. We are having the same problem at my work. We manufacture products for the construction industry: roof trusses, floor joists, and walls. It is manufacturing but many think it IS construction. They think it should pay the same as construction jobs.

    The problem is that fast food places are paying similar wages as we do for manufacturing. So we are having difficult times finding decent workers. Not to mention that many that we hire and are the younger generation that think everything should be handed to them. They also think that the job is there for them and not that they are there for the job. More or less that they are paid to be there and not paid to work.

    So why don't we pay more? That would make our costs go up, prices of new homes and buildings would go up and our competitors would have to increase too or the contractors would just buy from them instead.

    Teachers on the other hand, don't have competition as we do. There is becoming a shortage of teachers. Why go into a job field that doesn't pay decent?
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