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        04-13-2013, 09:31 PM
      #51
    Yearling
    One thing my mom is extremely picky about is grammar, so I pretty much know it all. And WELL. I write well for the most part, though sometimes I let it go in the chat room.

    I always proofread my posts before posting them, too. I usually catch quite a bit because I type quickly.

    My biggest grammar pet peeve? A paragraph with nothing save exclamation points for punctuation!
         
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        04-13-2013, 09:36 PM
      #52
    Trained
    HCT, we all "let it go" sometimes. When I'm in a hurry, I've been known to write in shorthand (shorten my sentences, etc). What we're talking about is wen ppl aint gots no clue whut there doin or typin or jess plane don't care.

    If we're going to talk pet peeves, mine is using the wrong spelling of a word. For example, using "there" instead of "their" or using "your" instead of "you're."
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        04-13-2013, 10:25 PM
      #53
    Trained
    Teachers in the Ontario system are limited in what they are allowed to teach, how they are allowed to teach it and how they are allowed to grade it. They have very little freedom to do what many of them know would be much more successful. All in the name of "province wide consistency." Blah.

    Drafty - I here you. I gave a caret to my hoarse today after I put the reigns over his neck Homonyms are a pet peeve of mine as well. Another one I have is not knowing if you need to use a subject or an object. As in: "Me and Tommy went to the store." Arrgggh... Everytime I hear someone say that, I ask them, "If you went to the store alone, would you say, 'Me went to the store'?"

    What about local dialect? If you can't speak properly, how in blazes are you ever going to write properly? Up here, the word isn't "supposedly" it's "supposebly". And the locals "berry" their dead, not "bury" them. Also, the ratio of adults in my neck of the woods that can't conjugate verbs is shocking.

    Then there is the regional accent. That became very interesting when I was teaching word sound structure based on letter combinations to a dyslexic teen. I had many interesting conversations with my coach and sometimes there wasn't a clear answer. Ever try to breakdown the pronunciation of a word that is pronounced differently in different countries, and then back up what you say? Sometimes it's impossible to do.

    So, while language is definitely something that can be studied to death, I just wish more people would take pride in how they speak and write.

    We don't knead to be purrfeckt, but we can try.
         
        04-13-2013, 10:37 PM
      #54
    Yearling
    O. I sea what yu meen now, Drafty. And yes, that bugs me to death, too.

    One thing that also probably doesn't do anything good for people's spelling or grammar is texting. Most try to just get it written in the fastest, easiest way possible. And it would be one thing if that was limited to texting, but it will usually transfer over to regular writing as well. Heck, I have a friend who can barely spell, and a lot of it is due to the fact that she texts constantly.
         
        04-13-2013, 10:38 PM
      #55
    Trained
    I'm "cursed" that I LOVE to read and have a very high retention of what I read. Because of this, I have a large vocabulary. I don't feel that I should have to "dumb down" my vocabulary and the language I use for the people around me. If you don't know what I'm saying, ask me. I don't mind explaining what I'm saying, especially if it helps expand your vocabulary. My boyfriend hates it when I use words or phrases he doesn't know and he refuses to ask me what I mean.

    HCT, I can type almost as fast on my iPhone's little tiny screen as I can on a regular keyboard. Okay, maybe not "almost as fast," but close. I write all my posts on my phone (no Internet at home and no computer access at work) and I still take the time to proofread and make sure everything makes sense (although sometimes little mistakes slip through and I correct them as soon as I see them).

    Another thing I've noticed lately on the forum is the rash of posts that make absolutely no sense. Not just run on sentences or poor spelling, but they simply aren't coherent. It's difficult to read them, much less answer them.

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    apachiedragon and smrobs like this.
         
        04-13-2013, 10:42 PM
      #56
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    I was exceptionally lucky in all aspects of the whole grammar and spelling movement. I went to a very small school (my graduating class consisted of 12 students, counting myself and it was one of the largest in school) so there was more one-on-one time with the teachers. The teachers actually cared whether we learned or not, they didn't pass anyone just to pass them, the students were required to do well enough to earn a passing grade.

    BUT, even all that was only part of my life. I grew up in a family of voracious readers. My parents and older brother read to me when I was little and we would often spend evenings with books instead of the TV. We didn't even have cable from the time I was about 8 until I was in high school. I would often go to the library and check out up to 10 books per week. I would purposefully check out books that were above my level because they challenged me. If there was a word I didn't know...well, I had a dictionary. If I didn't understand a sentence, I would either ask a parent or a teacher or re-read the entire paragraph for context clues until I was able to get the gist of it.

    Now, all that being said, my Mom works in a local school (not the same one I went to) and she often spends days in the library checking out books. What she told me is that at the beginning of each year, the students are tested and assigned a "reading comprehension level". That I can understand, but those levels are kept on file in the library and the students are not permitted to check out a book that isn't on their level. While, on one hand, I agree with part of that to keep kids from checking out books that are 3 grade levels below them, I guess I don't see what's wrong with letting a kid try to struggle through a book that's a little bit above them.

    For example, she said there was one kid who had a reading level of about 3rd grade (this was a teenager) who came in and wanted to check out one of the Twilight books. Because it was above his reading level, she couldn't check it out to him. I suppose I just don't understand that. If he has the desire to read something above his level, why not let him give it a shot? It might encourage him to buckle down and better himself.


    LOL, NM, I get tired of people around here that spell phonetically. I mean, the southern accent is hard enough for non-southerners to understand when it's spoken. When it's written? Fat chance of anyone understanding that.

    Anyway, enough of my rantings now LOL.
         
        04-13-2013, 10:42 PM
      #57
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    What does perspicatious mean? Did I spell that right?
         
        04-13-2013, 10:43 PM
      #58
    Yearling
    Drafty-- Me too! I read ALL the time. I don't know what I would do without a good book every now and then.
         
        04-13-2013, 10:51 PM
      #59
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tinyliny    
    what does perspicatious mean? Did I spell that right?
    Close. It's perspicacious. It means having a keen understanding.

    Smrobs, I totally agree with the reading level thing! That's ridiculous. They should have it set up so that they can't check out books below their level, but are ENCOURAGED to check out books above their reading level and challenge themselves.
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        04-13-2013, 10:52 PM
      #60
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tinyliny    
    what does perspicatious mean? Did I spell that right?
    Is this maybe what you mean?

    Quote:
    per·spi·ca·cious
    adjective \ˌpər-spə-ˈkā-shəs\
    : of acute mental vision or discernment : keen


         

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