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post #11 of 15 Old 08-27-2012, 08:01 AM
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Sorrelhorse I fully agree.
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post #12 of 15 Old 08-27-2012, 08:16 AM
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A Rape thread will be started in Saloon....

Everyone, I have been in contact with the Mods and Admin of this forum.
After the legitimate rape thread was closed I, as a rape surivour wanted , the discussion to not end in an arguement.
Due to the disclosures of a few very brave women, I disclosed the sexual assualt that happened to me nearly 30 years ago.
Something that I have not done before.
The Legitimate rape threads discussion and its arguement got a lot of people riled up and emotions were high.
Rape is about power. Surviving rape is about strength.
The mods will be monitoring the thread closely to avoid the need to close it.
I as a Phychologist will also be there to "shepard" the thread.. that was the mods words not mine. LOL
Anyone that would like to participate the thread will be in Saloon due to its content and minors that are present on this forum
Hopefully there will be some interest and we as surivours can join together to heal.
My thanks to the very brave women who encouraged me to confront the anger and fear that I have carried for almost 30 years.
I cannot express my true feelings at the strength it took to disclose such things on a public forum.
Look for the thread later this evening in Saloon.
Please remember that the mods and adnmin of this forum have been nothing but supportive of this subject.
Their concern for the wellbeing of all members has amazed me.
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post #13 of 15 Old 08-27-2012, 06:41 PM
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Here's a thought that I had in response to the other thread.

I was thinking about how on earth people could have that opinion that victims of rape that do not "avoid" rape then they "bring it on themselves" or however you word it. That they are somehow responsible and should have dressed differently/not had a drink out/not looked sideways at the guy at the other end of the room etc. I began thinking about what in society could be attributed to this culture of blaming the victim.

At first I started thinking it was the whole "the real victim is the perp" mentality that some people believe the justice system has. Maybe this was rubbing off on people without them realising? Then I remembered that none of the people who thought rape was avoidable said anything even remotely pitying about rapists. I think that rape would have to be one crime that pretty much everyone finds unforgivable, so it can't be that.

Then I had a thought. What about the "right to defend" mentality? Sometimes it seems to me that people will think of "defense" as what it is - defending yourself in a situation when you need it - and others will think of it as a more "offensive" manner - and then think that anyone else that doesn't actively take measures to protect themselves against a potential rapist well before the rape occurs is not defending themselves at all.

As said many, many times in the previous thread, a person should be able to walk down the street at 3am without a stitch on, with no fear of any sexual attack. You should be able to wear what you want, drink what you want, go where you want. Blaming a victim who does those things is senseless. The ONLY reason rape occurs is because a sick, twisted individual makes the choice to assault someone in the most degrading way possible.

Another analogy for your reading pleasure. If I owned a lolly shop, and had a window display of all my delicious goodies... would it be OK for someone to break in and steal my goods? After all, I did put them out so publicly, I did pick a store in a not so amazing location....

Mods, grant me the serenity to see the opinions I cannot change, courage to change the ones that should change, and the wisdom to spot the trolls.
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post #14 of 15 Old 08-27-2012, 08:21 PM
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Chiilaa, there is a vast, vast, vast difference between "reality", and what "should be". Although people should not steal, it is a fact that some will and have in every single civilization known to have existed. Does that observation make one "pro-theives"? The same is true of rapist. I think implying that introducing this fact is the same as blaming the victom is - twisted.

There is just as much horse sense as ever, but the horses have most of it.
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post #15 of 15 Old 08-27-2012, 10:12 PM
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Everyone there is a thread for the survivors of Rape in the Saloon part of the forum.
If you are of age contact a mod or admin to gain access.
For those of us that have had their lives torn apart by such violent acts feel free to join and contribute to the thread. Shalom
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