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    01-16-2013, 10:28 AM
  #11
Foal
I agree with GH. So many people involved, so many faulty memories. Such a tragic and stressful event cannot be remembered perfectly in every detail, too much sensory input and emotional trauma.

I guess I wouldn't be surprised either way. There is evil in this world that we do not know of, nor can conceive in our innocence. I can see how people are trying to find a "reason" for such a senseless act of violence.
     
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    01-16-2013, 11:13 AM
  #12
Trained
I am in NO WAY a conspiracy theorist.
But if you understand the premiss of the movie, the families involved, and the way both (I don't even have a word for them) were raised, then I can clearly see a direct correlation. Most of the things being "pointed out" are junk.

How the media and now the President/Admin is taking advantage of the situation gives me far more worry.

I feel so so terribly sad for them and their children.
     
    01-16-2013, 02:00 PM
  #13
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Originally Posted by Maple    
I could be mistaken, but I was under the impression that it is one of the reasons the conspiracy theorists are running with?
TBH I haven't even heard the term till now. I agree with GH though - it is always good to question things in the light of new evidences to prevent same thing to happen again. I sincerely hope something will be done to protect the kids (as well as adults), and I feel extremely sorry for the parents and relatives (and don't even want to imagine how those people can feel).
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    01-16-2013, 02:25 PM
  #14
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I cannot believe, in any way , shape or form, that our government was involved in a plot to use this as a way to create grounds for stricter gun controls.
Why look for greater evil than what was already there? Just because it is incomprehensible that a young man would simply go off and kill innocents like that does not mean that it didn't happen, and just in that incomprehensible way. Bad things happen, and there isn't always a "reason" or a "profit" behind them, much less a conspiracy.
     
    01-16-2013, 02:26 PM
  #15
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Bad things happen, and there isn't always a "reason" or a "profit" behind them, much less a conspiracy.
So true
     
    01-16-2013, 02:52 PM
  #16
Trained
1 - As a general rule, never use a conspiracy to explain something that can be explained by stupidity or gross incompetence, particularly on the part of government.

2 - Fast & Furious may well have been an attempt to change gun laws. But Rule #1 might apply.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operat...st_and_Furious
     
    01-16-2013, 02:57 PM
  #17
Banned
I sat through this video the other night, and was miffed, so I did some digging myself.

Well initially when he was going on and on about there being no ambulances there, I was cursing at the screen. In his own footage in that very video, you can see at least 3 of them.

Alex Jones (the gun nut of Piers Morgan interview fame) is behind this.

Here's a debunking of the video

preggit comments on This Sandy hook conspiracy video has been making the FB rounds. Anyone want to take a stab at debunking it?



The poor man who took the kids into his house is being harassed.

Grandfather who comforted Sandy Hook Elementary kids says 'truthers' are targeting him - U.S. News





It's a terrible shame that the gun nuts are putting the families through this for their own agenda.
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    01-16-2013, 03:02 PM
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Trained
It's a terrible shame that the anti-gun nuts are putting the families through this for their own agenda.

The folks who denied it happened are right up there in looniness with the 911 truthers, or those who believe we invaded Iraq to get free oil. However, the anti-gun rights folks are undoubtedly exploiting this event to push unreasoned gun control thru before people can think about actual causes & possible solutions.
     
    01-16-2013, 03:23 PM
  #19
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Originally Posted by bsms    
However, the anti-gun rights folks are undoubtedly exploiting this event to push unreasoned gun control thru before people can think about actual causes & possible solutions.
Do you really and genuinely believe that?

I have seen lots of arguments from the polar opposites on this one, from those who think that every gun is evil and guns should be abolished, to those who believe that the only answer is more guns and bigger guns, both sides appear to be exploiting the event to get their side heard.

There has been a huge increase in the sale of guns and ammo, and now one state as introduced sweeping new laws, all maybe gut reactions.

What solution does the moderate middle look for I wonder.
     
    01-16-2013, 03:44 PM
  #20
Trained
I believe that. Especially since they "have the public on their side"... Especially when certain Democratic leaders have been shouting to get this through asap. When the hypocritical movie stars are spitting out PSA's when we all know they made their millions off of "shoot em up" films, some that created heros out of villains and demonized the police/military. Never let a crisis go to waste..

As far as the conspiracy stuff? My brain also doesn't work that way, but some of the "connections" are shocking. Not in the way that the theorists are portraying it exactly, but "Sandy Hook" was on the Batman map. There has also been speculation on how the Newtown (?) shooter was related to the stunt man (I think) was killed during the movie, Uncle (I think)?

Again, the scariest thing is we are raising kids that are capable of these types of heinous acts. Impressionable wackos influenced by violent movies and games, and no one is holding their parents responsible...
     

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