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post #21 of 32 Old 08-21-2012, 09:07 PM
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^^ I just checked rates for undergrad study in my local universities earlier today (was asked if there is anything under $30K). Of course, the better the one the higher rate is. But for out of state undergrad it's $40+ K/year. THAT is indeed very expensive (for in-state half of that price). And it's a public school. I only wonder how much it is in private!

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Are there public funds in university as well? (for undergrads)

I had fellowship for 2 years, but it came from the public (research) fund. I'm not sure if they distinguished by race or gender (from the list of names I saw didn't look like).
I don't know. I went to a state university, but never tried to tap into any public funding. I had a double sports scholarship in basketball and tennis, a grant from Union Carbide for biological research my sophomore year, and I worked a full time job and a part time job, so never pursued any public grants or loans. Of course we are talking the mid 60's here, so things were likely much different back in the dark ages. When I returned to school after Vietnam I had of course lost my sports scholarships, but had the GI bill, which helped some, and worked 2 jobs, so again I didn't pursue any public assistance....
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I don't know. I went to a state university, but never tried to tap into any public funding. I had a double sports scholarship in basketball and tennis, a grant from Union Carbide for biological research my sophomore year, and I worked a full time job and a part time job, so never pursued any public grants or loans. Of course we are talking the mid 60's here, so things were likely much different back in the dark ages. When I returned to school after Vietnam I had of course lost my sports scholarships, but had the GI bill, which helped some, and worked 2 jobs, so again I didn't pursue any public assistance....
FM, can you get an assistance as a veteran? (just curious) With so many people coming back from Afghan and Iraq, I'd assume they should provide something special for such people.

I was working as teaching and then research assistant myself (before winning the fellowship, which was also a research one basically). Not sure if this is considered as assistance. In my understanding it's not.

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I had a scholarship, it paid for tuition only. Back then, car, room and board, etc,. Was easy for most any parent to cover...or even a student w a part time job. This is hardly the case today. Nearly all universities upgraded dorms to more "apartment like" quarters when times were a plenty, and now there are few jobs. The result is expensive room and board and no means to pay for it other than via loan or parents..or - scholarship offset. In fact, other than in my state, most university's room and board costs is 10-13 k.

So, a lower income family would pay for just room and board...how? Yes, their kid could just run out and get a loan. No problem, they do it all the time. That is why you hear kids complaining b/c they have 150K or more in student loan debt. They must not have been eligible for any scholarships or grants...so they were penalized - BIG TIME.

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FM, can you get an assistance as a veteran? (just curious) With so many people coming back from Afghan and Iraq, I'd assume they should provide something special for such people.

I was working as teaching and then research assistant myself (before winning the fellowship, which was also a research one basically). Not sure if this is considered as assistance. In my understanding it's not.
Well, I am sure FM will give you a more detailed answer....but the short answer is - yes, for afghanastan and iraq vets. There is a time limit. I don't think there is any currently for FM, though.

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This is hardly the case today. Nearly all universities upgraded dorms to more "apartment like" quarters when times were a plenty, and now there are few jobs. The result is expensive room and board and no means to pay for it other than via loan or parents..or - scholarship offset. In fact, other than in my state, most university's room and board costs is 10-13 k.
As I posted on another thread... $40+K/year for my local UMD if you are out of state. Very expensive, I didn't even think it's that much these days. You gotta be making a lot to be able to pay for everything yourself (and with studying it's hard to keep a well-paid job). I'd think you also have more chances to get assistance if you are in-state student.

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Veterans get educational assistance, but I can't tell you anything about it because it has changed several times since my day, and doesn't resemble the old GI Bill at all. It has been so long ago, I can't remember what I got, but it covered my tuition with a little bit left over. I had a wife and 2 little kids, so still had to work 2 jobs to get by...those were tough years...
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Interesting. I've seen financial aid office in my university, but I never looked into it. I'd think they help some (since it's a public univ).
Financial aid is income based. It's also based on family size, so if your family has a bunch of kids you'll pretty much get a full ride in most circumstances. (Curse my mother for only having three kids!). It's a combination of grants (which you don't pay back) and loans (which you do).

It also might depend on how savvy you are at doing your taxes. I had a friend in college whose family owned a business and had lots of assets (cars, nice houses, etc.). And he had full financial aid. I asked him how he managed that and he replied, "My parents have a good accountant."

MY parents couldn't even afford an accountant.
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GI bill can now be passed on to dependents/spouse if the service member so chooses not to use it for themselves.
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I think it's very fair if it can be passed to dependent/spouse if not used. What I find strange though (I'm reading through the bill right now) it covers all different kinds of training and non-degree college programs, but not the full tuition (there is tuition top-up, but it's rather confusing).

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