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post #1 of 15 Old 09-15-2013, 06:22 PM Thread Starter
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A Story of Abortion

I don't think this is against the rules, but if it is please be polite. I am not trying to start a fight, but merely showing a story I am writing. Do you think this story, form what you can read, may change her views? (If you want more I can also add it, but as of right now I only have the second chapter done)

So, I am not into religion, at all. Well, I have family who are major bible thumpers, as in not believing in Dinosaurs majorÖ I recently got into an argument with my Aunt about abortion. She wants it outlawed completely, and I was trying to explain how it is good, and sometimes it is needed. She quoted the bible to me: ďGenesis 1:27 says that God created man in his own image. Everyone is created in His image including pre-borns. The only one who gives life and takes life is God. Not his creations. We canít judge and choose, we need to trust and have faith in our Creator." So I am writing her a story. This is the first chapter:

Blinking open her eyes, the first thing she saw was blinding white light. Moving her hand to block it out, she noticed it was covered in bandages. Glancing to her left, she saw that hand was the same.
"Good morning, I see youíre finally awake. You were starting to worry us there," came a cheery voice. Gasping, the woman jerked her head to see an aging gentleman standing in the door way.
"Iím sorry, but I donít seem to know where I am," she said, her voice wavering.
"Thatís alright. Itís to be expected after the type of trauma youíve received," he said as he walked closer to her. "My name is Dr. Bates, and I have been with your case since the day you arrived." After a small pause, in which he gave her a bright smile he continued. "Do you remember your name?"
"My name," the woman echoed, "NoÖNo I donít think I doÖIs that bad?" Panic had begun to set itself into her voice, so Dr.Bates quickly reassured her that it was to be expected after that type of trauma.
"Trauma. You keep saying that word. What do you mean?" The woman tried to sit up straighter, but a pain in her abdomen stopped her mid motion. She would have lifted the blanket to look at the cause, but her hands were wrapped so she couldnít use her fingers. She could also feel a bandage going around her head, and her jaw was extremely sore.
"I donít know any better way to tell you this, but youíve been raped. It happened two nights ago, just a couple blocks from here. It appears like you put up quite a fight, and we did manage to get some of his DNA from your finger nails. The police are searching for him as we speak," Dr. Bates said, as a look of horror dawned on the womanís face. He was about to reassure her when his pager went off, and he was forced to excuse himself, trying not to notice the sheen of tears in her eyes.
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post #2 of 15 Old 09-15-2013, 06:53 PM
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No, I do not think that a story is going to change the opinion of your aunt, just as her verse quotes do not change your opinion.

I find rape victims being brought up in every single abortion debate, no matter where it is, but few people realize just how few rapes result in pregnancy. I also think that you will find that under circumstances of life-threatening circumstances or extreme trauma, many pro-life activists will agree that the mother's sanctity of life is to be valued and defended above that of the unborn child's.
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^ I'm with Endiku. Let her have her opinion and you have yours. IMO you should never set out to completely change a persons view on something but too simply give them your side of things so they can take what they want from that or leave it. Different views are good, and believe it or not they can teach us all new things (yes even in this case). That being said, don't stop writing your story if you want to write it!
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It's a really tricky topic because, at least in my opinion, both sides have very valid points.

When I look at it from a religious perspective, I guess I see it a bit differently to how many Christians see it. Choosing and following a religion isn't just about saying you believe in something, it's about living your life everyday in accordance with those beliefs. No religion says it all should be easy, decisions aren't meant to be easy, but people are often "meant" to spend their lives proving their faith.

So if the teachings of the bible, or any other religious text, were to be made law, who would be Christian? If people followed those laws because they are afraid of the consequences of disobeying, or of informal social punishments, or just because they are the laws, are they really Christian? They don't have to make the sacrifices, make the choices, or live their lives according to their god, that choice isn't really theirs anymore. What is the value in all of this?

Or you could look at a less regulated society where people genuinely make their own choices. Such as about abortion. If you're Christian and believe abortion is bad and choose not to get one on your beliefs, then aren't you proving yourself, in a way, to god? Aren't you living how you think he wants you to? If that choice wasn't there, that opportunity to be as you think god wants you to be wouldn't either.

In fact, a lot of religion is based onbeing not how others are. That's what draws people together, shared adversity, shared difference. Even commandments often command not to do what others do. However, by taking away that choice to do what you believe is right and wrong, you're taking away the essential part of being religious, which is changing the way you live your life. It's the choices you make that have value I think.

I guess I shared my "religious" side view on it because I think the rape victim scenario doesn't help at all. It's not about arguing that some situations are so awful that you should do it, trying to work out which one is worse because then you've already given half your ground. When you start arguing it on grounds of trauma etc, you're already conceding that it shouldn't be allowed in normal circumstances. To me the only argument is that people need to choose what's right and wrong for them. If someone is religious then the choices they make are making them religious, not the laws around them - every choice they make everyday is what makes them "Christian" (or whatever religion). Taking away choice isn't just taking a freedom, it's also taking away religion because that is a choice.

I don't know, just my thoughts on it. I'm pro choice, however I am anti-abortion, I think it's a rather horrible thing and I don't think I could ever do it. But I'm glad that's a choice I can make for myself. I can see how others see it differently though, and it's just generally something I don't discuss. I've known people who've had abortions, and I've supported them in their decisions just as support my friends who have children now.

Good luck with your story, but I don't think it will change any minds.
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It may not change her opinion, and that's fine because it is her opinion, but what it might do, is help her to understand your opinion....
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Abortion is a very tough topic. I understand and respect both sides of the issue. I know where I stand but I would never expect to change someone else's opinion on it. I would also never judge or hold it against someone if they were forced to have to make a decision as to wether or not to have an abortion. It is a very personal decision and one that they will have to live with for the rest of their life, for better or worse. I think writing a story has the potential to share your beliefs, but don't expect it to change someone else's.

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People who believe so rigidly in the bible will never see someone else's side. If babies are made in God's image he must be multi colored as there of people of many skin tones in this world, from the blackest blacks to the albinos. And since everyone refers to God as "he", wouldn't the human race have died out before it got started. Who made "she"?
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It won't change her mind. She has been indoctrinated. I simply say that I feel no child should be brought into the world unwanted. A mother needs to love and help her child turn into a useful citizen. I know too many neglected children that turned into people that were not helpful in society.... there is a lot to be said about nuture..... and no child should be forced into a bad situation.
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Opinions are opinions. In my opinion I don't think someone else's opinion should impede on you choices. If you want an abortion people who are pro-life shouldn't block that persons choice. Likewise, no one should be forced or pressured into getting an abortion if they don't believe in it.
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Everyone has their own opinion and should be entitled to have it. It might show her your point of view but I doubt it will change it. It's a tough discussion. Personally I could never do it. They allow it up to 20 weeks now. I watched my baby moving on the ultrasound at 10 weeks and began feeling him move at 16 weeks. Rape victims are given a pill to prevent an unwanted pregnancy. Not always 100% effective and not everyone goes to the hospital right away, so it happens. But it's a choice for everyone to make on their own, their the only ones that have to live with it. So I say let your aunt have her opinion and you have yours.
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