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post #101 of 218 Old 04-22-2012, 09:29 AM Thread Starter
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Meant Senate budget. 2 years ago the Senate voted o for and 97 against (truly bipartisan) the president's budget...
The Tea party elected House members all ran on a no new taxes pledge. And untypically they are the way they promised.
Thank God for the Tea Party.... With trillions of dollars of a deficit on the line annually and weak economy.
WE MUST CUT SPENDING...Not increase taxes and weaken our economic growth.
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post #102 of 218 Old 04-22-2012, 09:40 AM
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I dont bother with politics, its a mess. Its corrupt and well it will get you in a fight most cases.



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post #103 of 218 Old 04-22-2012, 09:43 AM
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I don't like either of them, but to me we had enough of Obama already. BTW, it's not even so much about president as it is about the team he picks.

P.S. I don't think being a horseman has anything to do with the person being a good politician, or the president.
That's true & neither does the color of their skin, how they worship or their genitalia.
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I believe that healthcare is a right Faceman and a lot of other democrats that I ttalk to do also.
I don't think education should be cut and that everyone should have access in order for them to succeed.
We have the right to bear arms, but I don't expect the government will be giving away guns to all citizens who want one anytime soon! Oh, and "access" to education is something everyone has - but not everyone can AFFORD it.
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Well, it will pain me to vote for Romney - horseman or not. When the lesser of the two evils makes Romney a clear "have to case", its a sad day in Dodge. But, I hope he wins and turns out to be a better president than I think he would make.
I'll be doing the same thing…and it IS sad!
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There are several schools of economic philosophy, and just as many, if not more, economists recognize that cutting taxes stimulates business expansion and job growth.
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Talk about misconception....

The Bush tax cuts of 2001 and 2003 were made with the PROMISE that it would stimulate business growth. Yet they did just the opposite. Growth actually decreased afterward. "Trickle down" economics is considered a joke and a "shell game" by most reputable economists.
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We have the right to bear arms, but I don't expect the government will be giving away guns to all citizens who want one anytime soon! Oh, and "access" to education is something everyone has - but not everyone can AFFORD it.
With respect to k-12 education in the US, everyone is taxed for it - and you're are right, we can't afford it - we are broke. The US spends more per student k-12 than any other comparable country in the world. Spending has done nothing but increase for decades, yet the level of education has done nothing but decline. Which tells us? Funding ain't the problem. The tuition for the vast majority of private schools is considerably less than what is spent per student in public schools, yet they consistently score higher. Which again tells us? Funding ain't the problem.

It really irritates me to hear anyone say we need to spend more on education (k-12). Few politicians will not pander to their "potential voters" on this issue by promising "more funding".

And, the actual amount spent per individual student is not equal. Far from it.

Sorry for the soap box...but this issue drives me crazy.
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Talk about misconception....

The Bush tax cuts of 2001 and 2003 were made with the PROMISE that it would stimulate business growth. Yet they did just the opposite. Growth actually decreased afterward. "Trickle down" economics is considered a joke and a "shell game" by most reputable economists.
If the Bush Tax Cuts were so bad as you say, why has Obama made sure they were extended?....lol....



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Talk about misconception....

The Bush tax cuts of 2001 and 2003 were made with the PROMISE that it would stimulate business growth. Yet they did just the opposite. Growth actually decreased afterward. "Trickle down" economics is considered a joke and a "shell game" by most reputable economists.
An isolated situation has absolutely nothing to do with a "misconception". If I have a "misconception" about that theory, than so do most of the economists in the world.

Rarely, if ever, will you find me defending Dubya...as I have said before, he couldn't spell economics. Bush was hit with the housing collapse, which I have pointed out in an earlier post neither he nor Greenspan had enough snap to forsee, and the Wall Street banking fiasco. While those contributed to the ensuing economic collapse, they have absolutely nothing to do with economic philosophies. Your statement is irrelevant to my post. The incompetence of a President has nothing to do with economic theory - that should be self evident in the case of both Bush and Obama, both of whom have been absolute economic failures - one on each side of the issue. On that basis, logic would dictate that neither philosophy works if the competency element of them and their staffs were not considered.

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"Trickle down" economics is considered a joke and a "shell game" by most reputable economists
...is your personal opinion.What are your qualifications to determine and judge the reputation and qualifications of economists? There are "reputable" economists on both sides of the tax/spend issue...
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I believe that healthcare is a right Faceman and a lot of other democrats that I ttalk to do also.
I don't think education should be cut and that everyone should have access in order for them to succeed.
I do not believe that abortion, gay marriage, voter ID laws, or tax cuts for the rich are the most important issues that this country faces now.
All those things are espoused by the republican party and are given far too much priority.
That is why I will vote for Obama.
Have the republicans come up with a viable economic recovery plan?
No. The House is playing politics by passing economic reforms that they know have no chance of passing the Senate or being signed by the president.
All that posturing does not allow for compromise and certain House members have refused to negotiate. All that time spent could be used to pass legislation that may not be perfect but could help our economy. Instead it was wasted so each party could have a few new sound bites to campain with. Shalom
Obama had full control of House and Senate for two years, where was recovery plan that actually worked ?

Obama has managed to raise our National Debt by over 50% since taking office

Stimulus was a hoax, I think it averaged 235,000.00 for every supposed job created or saved....

After 3 years we still have no Budget passed, 2 years we had 100% Democratic Control

We lost a point in our Economic rating

Obama last Jobs Plan got ZERO votes even from Democrats

Republicans have come up with 5 Economic plans, everyone of them has been either threatened by a Veto before it got off the ground or never allowed to be brought up in the Senate

Obama shouts bi-partisanship...lol... if that were actually true America would be in a lot better shape

The list could go on for pages and pages

The writing is on the wall................



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