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        03-23-2012, 10:43 AM
      #21
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    Originally Posted by tinyliny    
    I think the number one problem is campaign finance reform. The ruling of two years ago that made corporations have the same rights of free speech as a "person", and its' spawinging of the "Super PAC's" , who raise million, nea, billions of dollars to back the candidate that will support their narrow coroporate interests (screw the American people) is the biggest threat to our democracy in decades, if ever!
    While that is certainly a big issue, IMO the biggest problem is the failure to establish term limits on Senators and Representatives. I don't think that was so much an oversight by the founding fathers as much as it was not realizing that the system permits people to become blood sucking professional politicians more intent on their own personal welfare than the wellfare of the country. Without term limits, the concept of representives of the people serving in the Senate and House running the country on behalf of the people is a pipedream...
         
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        03-23-2012, 10:58 AM
      #22
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    Just a sidebar if you will forgive me...and food for thought.

    We need to look at history and learn from the mistakes of the past. One of my favorite fiction authors is the late great Edgar Rice Burroughs. In addition to his science fiction novels he wrote a couple of well researched historical novels. One of them takes place in Rome and indirectly chronicles the life of Caligula, and was written about 70 years ago. Here is an exerpt that is a commentary on Rome around 25 AD as Rome was going into its decline and eventual collapse. Honestly it is a rather scary self portrait - especially for those of us a little older that have seen the transition in the US culture in the last 50 years...

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    The Roman patrician is haughty, arrogant, and heartless to those of lesser blood, unless they have great wealth, and a fawing sycophant in the presence of the emporer. The knights are avaricious money-grubbers, usurers, and worse. They are notoriously dishonest. The common people, the plebs, are a race of undisciplined beggars, degraded by generations of public charity: the dole has reduced them to the state of whining, snarling mendicants. They are without loyalty or courage or honor, and they are rotten with vice and crime.
         
        03-23-2012, 11:06 AM
      #23
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    I don't think it was an oversight at all. Term limits are in the hands of the people. If the electorate want term linits all they have to do is vote for someone else. We don't need a law to solve every problem. A politician should be able to be voted in as many times as the electorate want him/her to represent them. One thing I appreciate about President Obama is that he has served to encourage more people to participate in thier local government and get thier views expressed. In this system of government the more people to participate the better off we are. I went to our local republican caucus last week and there were over a hundred people there. Two years ago there were less than 50 and before that the same ten or twelve people would show up every time. Incumbents are in trouble and that's a good thing in my opinion. People are struggling financially and realizing the importance of living within a budget and are expecting the government to do the same. Our state has a balanced budget every single year. Texas has one of the largest economies in the world and they meet as a legislature every TWO years and pass a balanced budget every time and Texas is far from homogenous. Some hard decisions will have to be made and some programs will have to be cut but our country NEEDS to quit spending more than it takes in. It's unsustainable for families and it's equally unsustainable for governments.

    The foundation of our country is NOT the leadership. It's the people and the founding documents. If we, the people, would hold our government to the constitution then our republic will florish. There will be a place in this country for everyone.
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        03-23-2012, 11:11 AM
      #24
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    We need a President who is an American.
    If the House and Senate don't balance the budget they are out of there.....
    My son is leaving for afghanistan today for 6 month deployment in
    special ops.
    Our commander inchief is an inexperienced embaressment how is still trying to vote present..
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        03-23-2012, 11:51 AM
      #25
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    Until there is an enforced law that requires valid ID to vote in all 50 states for every election, I am 100% for term limits. It was not an oversight to not include them, as originally there was no federal tax and only property owners could vote.

    And I am for replacing federal tax with VAT tax. This way, no one is "more equal" (i.e., is not taxed).

    And, I am for making it illegal for any financial institution to be publically traded. This ensures bankers have something to lose.

    If only there were a viable candidate that would address real issues.
         
        03-23-2012, 01:00 PM
      #26
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    What I meant by tail spin is this: There is a vast amount of people that feel that current President has failed, and our lives are getting worse. There is also a vast amount of people that feel the current potential candidates will be just as bad. Until our mindframe can change that one persons way of doing things is NOT the only way, and comprimise without reprocusions can be made, we as a whole will feel that nothing is getting better.

    I'm just going to throw this out there. Has anyone noticed that 1) the current GOP canditates are to busy pointing fingers to actually let people know their position on the issues? All I can find anywhere is how they feel so and so did this wrong, and so and so said that. Everything has been so focused on what others are doing wrong according to the candidate, that the reason we should follow/believe in them has been lost.

    2) I'm not saying the current President is any better or any worse then previous ones (I going to TRY and stay out of that part of the issue). However, has anyone else noticed that the current President is simply referred to as "Obama", and has been since he was campaigning? While previous Presidents are always addressed or mentioned as "President So & So". Regardless of peoples reasons, I believe the current President was doomed to fail from the beginning. By not always addressing him in the manner of respect given to others without fail, we have shown that regardless of his actions we will not respect him.

    3) As a nation we were attacked, the previous President chose to focus more efforts & money on a secondary threat (& possibly a personal vendeta) that focusing our efforts on the person responsible for the attack. Yet the current President, who did focus on the responsible person & since eliminated that person, has been admonished for what is happening overseas. Anyone else, we would be celebrating, and forgiving his shortcomings. Instead we insist on focusing on his inability to change things in four short years that took decades to decline.

    I'm just saying..
         
        03-23-2012, 01:28 PM
      #27
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    I want to see a true equestrian, a man with horse sense! All the greats were!
    A no nonsense, hard core, true to the Constitution, all American, man. Do those even exist anymore?

    I agree with what everyone else said. No more agenda, no more slight of the hand, no figure out a back door throw a hissy fit and twist the truth when you don't get your own way BS (from anyone, rep or dem!). I HATE politics, the biased minority media (and I mean that in the agenda/value sense), and this whole idea that the country is divided and the "rich" people need to pay more to take care of the lesser! Those "rich" people (which I'm not!) had to work their tails off and they provide jobs to people like me. So the last thing we need to do is sacrifice them to "help" out those who haven't got it figured out yet... or have they?
    The "rich" people I know and myself will work less and make less instead of working our tails off and paying more to the gov. I've heard on so many different occasions people saying "I can't take that promotion or job because that will put me in a higher tax bracket and I can't afford to be there." Is that American? Nope. Socialist, Communist... yep. Sad, sad, sad.
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        03-23-2012, 01:49 PM
      #28
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    I'm not big on politics and debates so I'm just going to put my thoughts down in a very simplistic manner.

    I want strong morals.
    I want family values.
    I want a religious person.
    I want a military background.
    I want honosty.
    I want an American who's not afraid to show his birth certificate or college marks.
    I want someone to come in with an agenda and I want that somone to stick to it.

    I miss Ronald Reagan, even when he made mistakes, the american people were in his best interests.
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        03-23-2012, 01:53 PM
      #29
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    Originally Posted by farmpony84    

    I miss Ronald Reagan, even when he made mistakes, the american people were in his best interests.
    Not just the people but the country. Sometimes what will help the country may be painful to certain groups for a while. That doesn't mean it shouldn't be done.

    I like Donald Trumps idea for getting a balanced budget. Pass a Constitutional amendment that the budget must be balanced every year or no member of congress is elligible for re-election. I'm pretty sure that would be the first thing done every session.
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        03-23-2012, 02:00 PM
      #30
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by busysmurf    
    What I meant by tail spin is this: There is a vast amount of people that feel that current President has failed, and our lives are getting worse. There is also a vast amount of people that feel the current potential candidates will





    Be just as bad. Until our mindframe can change that one persons way of doing things is NOT the only way, and comprimise without reprocusions can be made, we as a whole will feel that nothing is getting better.

    I'm just going to throw this out there. Has anyone noticed that 1) the current GOP canditates are to busy pointing fingers to actually let people know their position on the issues? All I can find anywhere is how they feel so and so did this wrong, and so and so said that. Everything has been so focused on what others are doing wrong according to the candidate, that the reason we should follow/believe in them has been lost.

    2) I'm not saying the current President is any better or any worse then previous ones (I going to TRY and stay out of that part of the issue). However, has anyone else noticed that the current President is simply referred to as "Obama", and has been since he was campaigning? While previous Presidents are always addressed or mentioned as "President So & So". Regardless of peoples reasons, I believe the current President was doomed to fail from the beginning. By not always addressing him in the manner of respect given to others without fail, we have shown that regardless of his actions we will not respect him.

    3) As a nation we were attacked, the previous President chose to focus more efforts & money on a secondary threat (& possibly a personal vendeta) that focusing our efforts on the person responsible for the attack. Yet the current President, who did focus on the responsible person & since eliminated that person, has been admonished for what is happening overseas. Anyone else, we would be celebrating, and forgiving his shortcomings. Instead we insist on focusing on his inability to change things in four short years that took decades to decline.

    I'm just saying..
    Everyone did the same to Bush just calling him Bush.
    I'm not into giving Obama another 4 years the price tag is to hefty.
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