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        06-22-2013, 04:00 PM
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    Originally Posted by Roadyy    
    Its a crying shame that there are still men in this world that will treat some of you women that way.
    It's also a crying shame that there are women in this world that treat men this way, or worse. It's the state of the world we are living in, unfortunately, that it is acceptable for anyone to do whatever they want in the name of "not judging" or "acceptance" etc. Without any absolutes, as these people would say ("all things are relative"), then all things become permissible.

    :( I would get plate numbers if possible, or otherwise at least make a complaint to the police dept with descriptions of the "men" and what they have done, so that if you need to call again with another or greater concern, you can note that you have already filed a complaint once and need immediate action, etc.
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        06-22-2013, 04:03 PM
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    I might just get the information for the construction crews in the area. They're sitting in their trucks where it's clearly marked no trespassing (they actually had the nerve to drive past the empty security truck in the drive way to get there). I imagine with liability these days the managers wont be too happy to hear there are people ON their property and drinking on their property. It's worth a try, anyway.
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        06-22-2013, 06:30 PM
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    Originally Posted by alexischristina    
    I might just get the information for the construction crews in the area. They're sitting in their trucks where it's clearly marked no trespassing (they actually had the nerve to drive past the empty security truck in the drive way to get there). I imagine with liability these days the managers wont be too happy to hear there are people ON their property and drinking on their property. It's worth a try, anyway.
    I believe if memory serves your sister was the car with you and passing comments not for publication. That would have given the wrong idea. As for males trying it on the behavour discribed is not acceptable and most would back off if ignored. At the age to be able to drive a car their upbringing has nothing to do with it. They are the type who have fitted into a catigory of being a pain and in need of being taken around the back of a building a shown the error of their ways.

    If your phone can take a photo get shots of the driver and licence plate go to the police and complain.

    Don't take your sister with you untill she has gained some age and common sense. If I read it right she had hung out the window giving as good as she got then she placed you in the same assessment. Easy game. Sorry if it hurt your feelings but think about the big picture and in that her responce help to fan the fire so to speak.
         
        06-22-2013, 06:34 PM
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    My sister and I were WALKING across a parking lot and down the street, I guarantee you neither she nor I gave them any cause to make comment. Where did you read that she 'gave it as good as we got'?
         
        06-22-2013, 06:43 PM
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    Alex-first off, don't automatically think it is construction workers.....or generalize them in that category. Many of them are just good hard working guys with families and manners, just like teen age boys, girls or any other group. Some are good, some are not. Just the way it is.

    And Stan-I don't care if her sister is dressed like a hooker and has a mouth like a truck driver. One bad behavior does NOT deserve another. There is no excuse for bad manners.
         
        06-22-2013, 06:44 PM
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    Frank, I said the area is full of construction workers who have never been anything but perfectly respectful. Sorry if I didn't make that clear enough. These are people who are using the construction sites (after hours) as somewhere to party.
         
        06-22-2013, 06:59 PM
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    Originally Posted by alexischristina    
    My sister and I were WALKING across a parking lot and down the street, I guarantee you neither she nor I gave them any cause to make comment. Where did you read that she 'gave it as good as we got'?

    I must have miss understood the first post and thought you two were in a car. Sorry. Take that out of the equasion and the rest of my comment stands Take the evidence to the police and complain.
         
        06-22-2013, 07:14 PM
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    Originally Posted by franknbeans    
    Alex-first off, don't automatically think it is construction workers.....or generalize them in that category. Many of them are just good hard working guys with families and manners, just like teen age boys, girls or any other group. Some are good, some are not. Just the way it is.

    And Stan-I don't care if her sister is dressed like a hooker and has a mouth like a truck driver. One bad behavior does NOT deserve another. There is no excuse for bad manners.
    I agree with what you say, with a but, a bad behavour responded too by the same has the effect of escalating a situation to where common sence seems to go out the window with some people. I see it frequently in our courts with folks with an attitude, she said such and such, and gave me the impression that, and away it goes. NOT an excuse for bad behavour but untill one knows what mental state the other person is in the conversation and any like responce can escalate a given situation.

    I made no comment on how the sister was dressed and mistakenly miss read the start which gave me the impression the sister gave as good as she got. (verbally) That was wrong of me and I stand corrected. As for having the mouth of a truck driver. I live rural and as such have a lot of contact with truck drivers. Logging, cattle, dairy etc. I don't consider truckers as having a bad mouth. That is not to say the odd one may vent now and again.
         
        06-22-2013, 09:50 PM
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    Originally Posted by Darrin    
    Unfortunately this is the natural behavior of young men. It's no different than male animals puffing themselves up and doing a dance to attract a mate. It takes a proper upbringing by their parents to suppress this kind of behavior. Doesn't help that some women not only expect this kind of behavior but also encourage it.
    Ridiculous! Everyone knows how to behave. These are simply male bullies who enjoy asserting power and it makes it even better that the victim is upset.

    To explain this as "natural" and "encouraged" is absurd. These boys need to be set straight by the legal system
         
        06-22-2013, 09:58 PM
      #30
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    Originally Posted by Stan    
    I agree with what you say, with a but, a bad behavour responded too by the same has the effect of escalating a situation to where common sence seems to go out the window with some people. I see it frequently in our courts with folks with an attitude, she said such and such, and gave me the impression that, and away it goes. NOT an excuse for bad behavour but untill one knows what mental state the other person is in the conversation and any like responce can escalate a given situation.

    I made no comment on how the sister was dressed and mistakenly miss read the start which gave me the impression the sister gave as good as she got. (verbally) That was wrong of me and I stand corrected. As for having the mouth of a truck driver. I live rural and as such have a lot of contact with truck drivers. Logging, cattle, dairy etc. I don't consider truckers as having a bad mouth. That is not to say the odd one may vent now and again.
    You know what people with this kind of attitude say about this topic... "Well, she was wearing a miniskirt. If she didn't want to be raped she should of dressed more conservativly!"

    Blaming the actions of the perpetrator on the victim is utterly insane.
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