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post #1 of 14 Old 09-07-2012, 02:25 PM Thread Starter
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What is your opinion of ethanol-added fuels?

I remember when it was introduced, and how gas prices were supposed to drop. Between what I have observed, and talking to my mechanic friends, I have to wonder why it's still produced.

Where I live, you can only get 91 octane fuel with ethanol. It is the same price as standard gas. Along with that, you get lower gas milage, and more repair costs, because ethanol is hard on engines not designed for it.

And then you have the whole "law of unintended consequences" thing. Much of the ground that used to grow corn for animal feed is now used to grow corn for ethanol production. Feed prices rose, especially cattle feed prices.

So why do we still use it? How much cleaner is it, really? If you know of any websites/newspapers/journals that explain this, please point them out.
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post #2 of 14 Old 09-07-2012, 02:47 PM
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I agree with you. It's only a filler. Corn is the 2nd largest food source in the World & we burn it up in engines. It does nothing but feed the corn lobbyists & give a 'feel good feeling' to extremists.

Now with the drought all food prices will go up, for man & beast but we'll still top of our tanks with food.

My vehicle lost 5mpg when that stuff became mandatory in my area. For a much higher price I can buy gas that is just gas so at least I won't be ruining all my farm equipment.
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Destroyed our massive, high dollar, brand spankin new tiller. We tilled 4 times and then it wouldn't start. Took it in and had to replace several parts because it wasn't covered, even though I couldn't find ANYWHERE in the manual to watch out for Ethanol.

Agree with you both, a waste of food. And yet another reason we are looked down upon.
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It has been a complete fiasco...
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post #5 of 14 Old 09-07-2012, 06:26 PM
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Breakdown of corn's major uses:

* Food products -- Cereals, snack foods, salad dressings, soft drink sweeteners, chewing gum, peanut butter, hominy grits, taco shells and other flour products, specialty corn including white corn, blue corn and popcorn .
* Animal feeds -- Distiller's dried grain, gluten feed and meal, high-oil feed corn for cattle, swine, poultry and fish.
* Industrial products -- Soaps, paints, corks, linoleum, polish, adhesives, rubber substitutes, wallboard, dry-cell batteries, textile finishings, cosmetic powders, candles, dyes, pharmaceuticals, lubricants, insulation, wallpaper and other starch products.

Those are the major uses, there are over 2,500 everyday products that rely on Corn....

Steal from the Corn supply for Ethanol based fuels and we all suffer.... Do what Brazil has done use Sugar to make Ethanol... most of us can do without so much Sugar

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post #6 of 14 Old 09-07-2012, 07:03 PM
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We have no choice here. ALL gas has ethanol in it. It's been that way for so long I can't even remember how my old car ran on pure gasoline.
It used to be only for a few months out of the year. I do not know why it is done and if there is any real benefit.
I doubt that biofuel from corn is the answer to our future energy needs. I have heard that some research has gone into biofuels from algae. H m m m . . . .
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post #7 of 14 Old 09-07-2012, 08:30 PM
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government propaganda game. Its onlu useful as long as the producers are getting big government subsidies. Shouldnt be any spark fired engines on the road anyway. We need ot get with the rest of the world and fix our emission laws and get with diesels.
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My opinion is red. It is red b/c that is what I see when I think about it.

One station here sells 100% ethanol free gas, I go out of my way to go there and get in line.
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I refuse to burn a drop of it if I can help it. When I go to Texas, I make sure I fill up in OK before I cross the border. I'll bet I drove 20 miles all over Amarillo last year looking for 100% gas and never found any. YUK!

One of the main reasons we have it is both Political Parties pander to Iowa because they have the first Primary caucuses and the candidates campaign so hard for the Iowa voters. There is not one thing good about Ethanol, not cost effective, raises feed and meat prices, causes engine damage, lowers mileage and power, completely ruins small engines and about 50 other things. I refuse to support it.

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post #10 of 14 Old 09-08-2012, 08:33 AM
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If they can make more money selling more corn based products they will. It's just a money game in my opinion. Highly doubt they did it for the environment.
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