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post #11 of 14 Old 09-08-2012, 12:30 PM
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Ethanol was supposed to be cleaner burning, a tad more environmentally friendly, engine was supposed to last longer BUT what the public wasn't told was that it costs more to produce ethanol in a useable state than it does oil.
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post #12 of 14 Old 09-08-2012, 01:49 PM
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I could go on and on, but the fact is that it is worse for the envirnoment. It cannot be argued otherwise until it takes no nrg or land to grow, harvest, and process the corn - not to mention transport it. Then there is engine degradation.

And, until I personally see analyses, techniques, etc., there is no way for me to verify the purity. I do not see it on the pump (I have looked). It isn't stated here, anyway. What are specs? Can the ethonal added, by volume, be 25% water? If there is a spec, is it decided by the state, feds, what? By whom, how, and how often is it being sampled and tested? No telling.

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When corn prices were low and didn't move for about 12 years--I know bc I used to buy it from an elevator--the farmers pushed ethanol, starting in the 1980's.
Now, we know that there isn't enough farmland, or easements, or dirt in the medians of the Interstates to grow enough corn to replace the oil that makes our cars go. Nobody wants to talk about that, and some farmers think they will make more money selling corn for fuel, instead of for food or indirectly, for animal fodder.
We've had corn 3 years in a row growing behind my 5 acres. It's ruining the soil bc the biggest crop feeders are:
1) tobacco
2) cotton
3) corn
When the crops aren't rotated, the next crop has less to feed on, and
"chemical" nitrogen fertilizers only work for a year. Farmers used to rotate 5 crops, and alfalfa came the year before corn to fix nitrogen in the soil and give the farmers a good corn yield. I haven't seen anybody in central IL doing this lately. Shame.
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The whole corn futures is a sham. They make a huge effort to make it sound like just poor little farmers are growing corn. They may well be, but the vast majority of corn that supplies human/animal feed demands is grown in mass by large entities w sophisitcated ground moisture sensing devices and irrigation equipment. The futures markets slobber over the "drought" and the amount that ethanol represents as a "removal" from the market. Target ethanol production was overshot by a significant amount...b/c they are being paid by the taxpayer to produce it - not b/c there is ANY true demand.

Get ethanol off the market, and remove the mandate for the sake of the environment and true inflation (they don't count food or gas, but you can't buy either w official "no inflation" data). Its just another attack on the environment all the while cloaked in "green"....and making plenty of it.
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