Since we're having such a nice debate over Obama and his policies in another thread, I though we might branch out and have a discussion over some other hot button topics that will be brought up in the upcoming election.
I am most interested to hear y'all's thoughts on gay marriage because I have yet to hear a single valid argument against it. To spite living in a state so opposed to the idea that they had to push through legislation banning same sex marriage even though it was already illegal
Here are a couple of the favorites people like to use:
"The Bible says it's wrong" - This argument falls apart on so many levels it's ridiculous.
First of all the Bible says a lot of things that modern Christians don't subscribe to. If you've ever eaten a bacon cheese burger... guess what? Last time I checked, Jesus didn't say one word regarding homosexuality specifically, let alone about it being sinful or wrong. He did mention something about loving thy neighbor though
Secondly, there's this little thing called separation of church and state. So regardless of weather you personally believe it's right or wrong, it is not the government's responsibility to enforce your religious convictions on the entire populous.
Moreover, marriage is not purely a religious institution. It is a social contract first and a religious one second. There are certain rights and ties to another person that can only be gained through marriage. How is it fair to deny these rights to an entire group of people just because you don't agree with their way of life? Atheists are allowed to get married. Why not gays and lesbians?
"But marriage has always been between a man and a woman!" - Yes, and up until the Civil War people had always owned slaves. The Bible even condones the ownership of slaves, but we don't do that any more do we? Just because something always has been a certain way, doesn't mean we should continue to do it.
"But marriage should only be between a man and a woman because they can make babies" - Oh really? In that case, a fertility test should be required when you apply for a marriage license because if you can't procreate, you shouldn't get hitched. Sounds kind of silly no?
"Legalizing same sex marriage will make it socially acceptable and encourage young people down a path of immorality." - This one is one of my favorites because it's just so ludicrous! So what if we tell our young people that it's OK to be gay? It's not like this is instantly going to turn all young people into homosexuals. People don't seem to get that it isn't choice. People don't just one day decide "Hey, I think I'll try being gay today. So what if I'm faced with daily public ridicule and abuse? It's the new hip thing to do." Look at it this way guys (assuming you're straight): if the world was reversed and being gay was accepted and straight looked down upon, would you suddenly be attracted to the same sex?
And the arguments just go down hill from there. I'm interested to hear what you guys have to say. All I ask is we keep things civil