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Why Isn't Black Friday Considered "Racist"?

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#1 ·
I don't mean to open a can of worms.
In the UK I believe we have had two this year. The first resulted in total chaos, fighting and generally people behaving like animals. So much so some stores didn't do it yesterday and some only did up to 9am.

First off we are copying the USA, Identity think this is something we started off.
But secondly because it relates to selling off the slaves the day after thanks giving, why is it even allowed.
There are so many things these days that offend, in my country it's considered offensive to have a nativity in a shop window! It's a Christian country, but when I worked in retail we were told it could be offensive to other religious people.
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#2 ·
But secondly because it relates to selling off the slaves the day after thanks giving, why is it even allowed.
Actually, it's a myth that it relates to slaves.

You're right though, so many things are found 'offensive' these days. IMO, it's ridiculous. There will always be something that offends someone, but everyone has to learn to put up with it because you will never find a community who believes in a sole diety, or follows a single custom. The way I see it, if it isn't hurting anyone, leave it alone.
 
#3 ·
I don't mean to open a can of worms.
In the UK I believe we have had two this year. The first resulted in total chaos, fighting and generally people behaving like animals. So much so some stores didn't do it yesterday and some only did up to 9am.

First off we are copying the USA, Identity think this is something we started off.
But secondly because it relates to selling off the slaves the day after thanks giving, why is it even allowed.
There are so many things these days that offend, in my country it's considered offensive to have a nativity in a shop window! It's a Christian country, but when I worked in retail we were told it could be offensive to other religious people.
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What HAVE you been drinking?!! Really?? It has NOTHING to do with slavery or slaves. It comes from an accounting term meaning your books go "black" for the day, your outflow is red in the books while your income is black. *sigh* WHY does everything have to do with slavery lately?!! :icon_rolleyes:

ENOUGH already....Oh wait, why should we even celebrate Thanksgiving since it has a lot to do with the genocide of "my people"...(note for those not having enough coffee yet...said tongue in cheek). :-?
 
#4 ·
I can't comment on thanks giving since we dont have it.
You can't argue though that slaves were sold the day after thanks giving and I assume it's a coincidence then that black Friday happens, the day after.

I am only thinking of this thread because we just had our bf and some have commented that's it's "in bad taste"
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#67 ·
I can't comment on thanks giving since we dont have it.
You can't argue though that slaves were sold the day after thanks giving and I assume it's a coincidence then that black Friday happens, the day after.

I am only thinking of this thread because we just had our bf and some have commented that's it's "in bad taste"
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This is so blatantly wrong it stands by itself. To begin with, it wasn't even a national holiday until 1863. And prior to that? Had been celebrated at various times from state to state, not on one day across the nation.

A little digging would have put paid to this.

Frankly, I am tired of everything being touted as racist. Latest is a petition going around trying to force Adele into admitting she is not a good singer and is only successful because of white privilege.

Term wasn't used until 1950s in print, and does refer to being in the black, or making a profit for the year. Doesn't have anything to do with slavery, selling slaves or having slaves. Period.

Unless you also subscribe to the belief that the New Testament was written solely to justify slavery in the American South. As well as there was not any law enforcement period until there were slave patrollers in the American South.

Another one of the many lies spread to cause hatred against whites. And it is a lie.
 
#5 ·
What a crock of garbage. Don't know where you heard such an outrageous thing but it's patently untrue, and you're deliberately fanning the flames.

As GS stated, it's because profits are considered 'blacks' while deficits are considered 'reds'. That's been accounting lingo for hundreds if not thousands of years, and has nothing to do with the color of anyone's skin or the slave trade.
 
#7 ·
I don't mean to open a can of worms.

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I think that may be just what this topic will do
like other have said it has nothing to do with slavery, it is a business term, I thought it had originated with the stock market crash of 1929, I could be wrong though.. Although people can't even fart anymore without someone getting morally offended by it.. all this P.C. Crap is driving me nuts, anymore I want to go live in Alaska with the Brown family in the woods and never have to hear anymore of it
 
#10 ·
These people act like a much of caged animals because they have no self respect and respect for others. I would never involve myself in any of those environments, really is it worth the risk getting injured? I wouldnt put up with it. The second I have someone trying to push and shove me, they would get a boot right to the face.

I have morals and dignity and would never put myself in those situations no matter how good the deal is. Theres a fine line between acceptable and downright dangerous.
 
#11 · (Edited)
I don't mean to open a can of worms.
In the UK I believe we have had two this year. The first resulted in total chaos, fighting and generally people behaving like animals. So much so some stores didn't do it yesterday and some only did up to 9am.
It had nothing to do with slaves. To be in "the black" meant that you were financially stable so, it means you can SPEND SPEND SPEND! That is what black friday was about. Spend for the coming holiday, while you have it.
 
#13 ·
Just like some others have said. The term black friday literally means that most businesses will be in the black on that day. Meaning they will be making a profit. It has nothing to do with any kind of people other than how much money they spent the day after Thanksgiving. My question is "Why do certain people always seem to look for trouble even when none is there"? In my opinion, just more stupid stuff that needs to be thrown in the rubbish pile along with the red coffee mugs.
 
#15 ·
If it takes you until mid November to be in the black, that's bad business sense surely?
Not all businesses supply products for the festive period. Some are seasonal and actually close at this time of year so they need to have made money by September.

Looking online there is actually a few opinions on its origins. Unless anyone can provide citation anyone of the reasons could be right.
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#19 ·
I only read the first page of this thread... Was this a joke?

Every one knows that Black Friday is the first day that the stores actually make a profit, taking the books out of the red and putting them in the black....

Selling of slaves the day after Thanksgiving? I don't recall pilgrims having slaves....
 
#22 ·
If anyone feels the thread is posted for trouble, then just ignore. I didn't wake up on a random day and think hey let's be a proper nuisance on the forum.
I posted it the day after the UK had a Black Friday. It's in the news, it's in the papers it's basically saying it was a big flop actually! Most people shopped online.

There are various explanations for its origins and there are various documents and newspaper articles using the term, I found an article dated 1929 in my country in relation to the police.

It may well relate to shopping for items these days and business being in the black, the festive Christmas shopping starts etc etc. But you cannot dismiss that years and years ago trade was very different, it involved animals, we didn't even use currency we barted way way back.
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#24 ·
But you cannot dismiss that years and years ago trade was very different, it involved animals, we didn't even use currency we barted way way back.
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Yes, we can dismiss it because it no longer applies. We no longer have slavery and I, for one of many, have never owned a slave nor wanted to. Therefore, I have no need to apologize for those who did. It was a very long time ago and times have changed. All this insincere apologizing for what happened 2-300 years or more ago, has no meaning in today's world.

Today we apply the statement to the day after Thanksgiving's shopping spree and many shops hang on all year for this day and the day after Christmas when all the exchanges are made, another highly profitable day.
 
#23 ·
You're British so you must know that the first British people that came here would have had a form of what is called Harvest Festival over there, its a long standing festival that originated in Pagan times and was held at the time of the 'Harvest Moon, when Christianity displaced Paganism the Church took over the celebration.
Its likely that the Pilgrim Fathers never even used the term Thanksgiving, that was a name that came later on
By the time it was first recognized as US holiday taken on a Thursday (Lincoln 1863) slavery was already close to being on the way out
 
#38 ·
Our Harvest Festival is in September, is it to do with your Thanksgiving?
And no, just because I am British doesn't mean I know what was adopted elsewhere and why.
I don't celebrate the Harvest Festival, which here is to do with getting a good crop that year.
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#33 ·
Wow, I am actually shocked at some of the repress here.

Given thaT Irish Cob, from what I recall has not posted anything imflamotary before, how great of people to pile on and be really quite rude, because she maybe wrong in her research....

Love the way you guys take the time to explain, well I guess some of you did, but others, no you sounded rude.
 
#36 ·
people who complain aobut the over commercialization of Christmas need to live by that philosphy and thus doing, help to change it.

I don't even think about it much until about the 10th. go to the book store and get books , or clothes, or to the farmer's market and get yummies for all that I wish to gift to. it's meant to be a sweet token, not a burden. I love getting gifts, but if I knew the giver was feeling all strained about it, I would hate that.

Christmas shrinkers, unite!
 
#37 ·
So why is black Friday the worst of your traditions TinyLily when the majority of posters know it's just because the retailer is in the black.

Fair enough some of my research maybe wrong but I have found various mentions of it from the wall Street crash when it wasn't a positive thing.

One article claims it started in the 1960's https://blackfriday.com/pages/black-friday-history

But then I come across this in relation to the UK in 1910
This is what the REAL Black Friday in Britain was all about - Mirror Online

Some of you won't know what the suffragettes were.

As for it being commercial these days our Christmas stuff goes out in September and believe it or not we have Easter Eggs out as well. That's surely to clear crap! I can't believe they have started pushing easter before we have had Christmas.
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#43 · (Edited)
My lawn mower broke in the beginning to mid Oct. sometime. I decide to run to Walmart to grab a cheap lawn mower to tide me over while mine is getting fixed. Nope, no lawn mowers. The garden dept. isles are filled with Christmas stuff. It's Florida, it's 85 degrees, the grass is still growing, Santa is going to be nowhere in sight for another 2 1/2 months, yet there's Christmas tress and snowmen filling up the isles. But no lawn mowers. I just turned around and left thinking "that's why I don't go to walmart" "what was I thinking?"

I just ignore everything Christmas until the first week of Dec. As a matter of fact, all through the year, if I see something that is screaming someones name, I'll just get it and hold it for a Christmas gift. Unless their birthday is coming up first that is.
 
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